Forged LS1 short block and 250 shot…FTW
wow i was scared for a bit with a 40k number floating around. I am hoping to buy the car in spring summer of 07. I saw a few going slightly modded on the impalaSS forum and Ebay motors for 6-9k. So with that as a starting point. Im thinking 2-4 years before its complete. Ill be outta college and haev my career and a good income coming. where i can actually do it.
If i was stupid id go get a loan for 40 grand and buy the car and have it built in one go. but im not.
good thread, and a lot of opinions being thrown around as to what can be done and what can’t for this much cash or that much etc… so, my turn to throw in an opinion.
Russian, way cool that you have certain goals and a decent plan as to how to achieve it.
It seems everyone is getting hung up on 1000rwp, 25g’s for this, 10 g’s for that… to do a magazine quality car, with top shelf parts, then yes, you will spend a fortune, but as u have indicated several times you want to start small, and build your way up.
Your choice of car, a B body, while not a good choice for a drag car, but as a 10 sec street car, it will work just fine. 
sure, it weighs 4300 lbs stock but they can be made to run.
ok,I realize that is exceptional performance, especially on a stock shortblock, but it is an example of what that platform is capable of. To run in the 10’s you do NOT need half the stuff being suggested.(I like shiny new expensive parts as much as the next guy but you do not NEED them.)
To get started:
stock shortblock, cam, stock heads reworked, injectors,fuel pump, headers, loose converter,drag radials.
Then 100-150 shot nitrous. You will run 11’s.
When you are ready for the turbo, you can sell off the cam, headers and nitrous. At that point replace the stock shortblock for a forged rotating assembly. Keep the stock LT1 iron heads and save some cash. They can flow very well and are strong enough.
To do a turbo 10 sec B body:
LT1- 650-700 hp capable no problem for------------------------- $5000
TH400 - basic build w/converter ---------------------------------$1500
8.5 10-bolt stock rear, aftermarket axles, 3.08 gears, good posi,-- $1000
turbo setup–includes plumbing,wastegate,BOV, boost controller—$5000
misc. stuff(tires, traction aids, driveshaft etc.--------------------$2500
-----------------------------------------------------total-----$15,000
By the way, I am in the process of building a similar project for one of my customers,( a streetable twin turbo LT1 in a '95 caprice) with a budget WAY smaller than being thrown around.
Ill be in touch with you later sir. Thank you. you brought a big grin to my face.
Ya - I also agree that it won’t take $40K for your biuld.
As TurboLS1 said, you don’t need the absolute best of everything. Unless you are going all out racing for big money and have unlimited funds, you can cut a few corners with “some” things.
As far as Turbo vs. Procharger. It all depends. The Turbo will likely have a greater potential for extreme power, but they are more difficult to install and can lead to random problems. But if you want a huge potential, many people go with Turbo’s. But, a Procharger will be easier to install, more reliable in many cases, and still be able to make a ton of power.
I personally have a built LT1 with a Vortech supercharger. It is in a '97 Z28. I did the ENTIRE planning and motor build myself in my garage. So if you have questions about ANYTHING or need suggestions about different engine parts, etc. just let me know…
I would like to see that car run when its done, cause I call bullshit. And if you can make a car for a customer for less than that, your running sub-par parts, and theres no way you can tell me that a 1,500 th-400 will accelerate a 4,00+ car into the 10’s without breaking in the first few passes. The 5,000 turbo kit is using some cheap stuff, even if you get stuff at dealer, 1,200 for turbos, 1,200 for a good wastegate and a bov, headers capable of lasting longer than a season 700, plus intercooler and exhaust/intake plumbing will take you over 5,000, and thats not an ounce of labor, just parts. And I would love to see a caprice that runs 11’s with just a shot of nitrous.
crazy lt1 i will be in touch in the future.
paul, nice builds can be done on budgets…but, i have one question… you probably have becuase you have a lot of experience, but have you ever done a complete FI build? theres odds and ends that add up quickly that will have you way over budget.
plus, the reason i was suggesting such parts/prices was because he was suggestign somewhere in the area of 7-800hp. if you want something thats gona last, and perform well, its gona cost. again, im not saying you need pro billet rods, BB turbos, AFR/ETP heads, etc,…but having a budget combination that will work still adds up quickly. you cant just throw loads of boost at something and expect it to make power and last
http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18758&highlight=383
Thats what you need.
yea if i had the cash for that. I got zip right now. had a couple fines that raped me pretty hard.
you dont need the best of everything, but it won’t stay togther with lesser quality parts, many people have learned that the hard way, huge difference between 500 or even 700 hp than 1000. Horse power cost money, plain and simple. Russina check yoru pm
ya i wouldnt know anything about that 
Your tranny is a freak for sure. Some guys like you get lucky, and they hold together. Some guys like me (twice), my brother, CrazyLT1, anniversaryss, etc…have problems. Most performance transmission shops will NOT even attempt to build a 4L60. There are only a few good shops in the country that build 4L’s strong enough to run 10’s consistently and they aren’t cheap. Th350/400 FTW!
lol,ok, for example, how about the Third ever procharger install in a 4th gen way back in 1996. This was before Lt1 tuning code was cracked and a fmu was the shit. I have seen a turbo or 2 in my time
lol, calm down, if you mean my customer’s '95, the car is for real, motor is almost done, plumbing will commence before the end of the year… I will even give you a ride when its done 
This customer is not looking for 10’s, just a basic 500rwhp streetcar. His budget doesn’t allow for top shelf parts, just a solid, well matched combo. There is no reason to throw money at a build when a good, less expensive part will get the job done. Just because you don’t think it can be done, doesn’t mean it can’t.
been there, done that…for example, how does 5 seasons, 2 big blocks, 4 small blocks, some with spray, in a full size, all steel TRUCK sound?
Me too!
Although I did say:
“To get started:
stock shortblock, cam, stock heads reworked, injectors,fuel pump, headers, loose converter,drag radials.
THEN 100-150 shot nitrous. You will run 11’s.”
Do you have more of these th-400’s, cause i have a light car with alot of ponies (say a 1,000, 1,200tq) that needs a trans, and if it can hold that kinda torque, i’m wasting my money with a $ 3,500 PG.
for 500rwhp, then yes it should be no problem to do that with that budget… but earlier you said 6-700, and i assumed you meant rwhp…
Im figuring at low boost i could be at 550, 600. High boost at 700-800.
Handling 1200+ torque and putting a Bbody into the 10s or 11s are VERY different stresses on a transmission. And to run 11s, a cam bottle and some suspension can go a long way. Anyone who spends $3500+ for a tranny on an 11 second street cruiser has too many dollars and too little sense.