Here ya go Shawn.
1, you are a social democrat . Wolf in sheep’s clothing…whatever you wanna call yourself, we know the deal. You are pro-obama, stop the bs. Many democrats have voted republican, and visa versa. That certainly doesn’t make you a centrist. Its funny you see yourself that way. Seriously. There were Reagan Democrates and Kennedy Republicans and so on and so on. Pataki won NYS, this state is 70% democrat. Don’t claim your not a liberal/socialist, unless you just don’t realize it. You have admitted it in many ways.
#2 You live to spew the same talking points…sooo predictable. You love the say GWB will go down as the worst president… and I’m sure the democratic mantra will keep that alive for decades, but either way, that’s not what this is about. GWB and McCain are different… even you now that. They may have supported each other in many ways, but they are different and this is not a GWB discussion. Stop the talking point. You love to call us mudslingers, Well, I am, cause there nothing I have less patience for than an idiot. Cant fix Stupid.
It doesn’t matter who’s running, neither are economists. Seriously man.
39 percent… r u serious… that’s my FED rate…hm mm, then I pay state, the ss and medicare…twice cause I’m self employed, then local and property is there just for kicks. the fed already take WAY to much. They need to collect from the masses… perhaps a flat tax is best… no loopholes, allpay an even percentage. But to punnish success is to fail.
You love to attack trickle down economics, cause that’s what socialsit and liberals do. We can all find studies to fit our beliefs and post them, but here’s the raw deal for all to get.
I make a profit, I hire an employee with said profits, he buys a truck and some tools…the car salesman gets paid, the tool salesman gets paid, the car manufacturer gets paid, the tool manufacturer gets paid, they make profits and hire engineers and salespeople, who make money…they buy shit built in china, the importers and department stores make a profit, they hire people who spend. The basis of growth is in capitalist spending. By the end of the Day, all these people earned, paid some tax if they earned enough, companies profited… paid tax, people spent their money in stores, paid sales tax, and the list goes on.
The creation of jobs comes from small business now, and job creation leads to growth, spending and good economic times. The more we spend, the more people earn, the more tax that is collected. To hinder growth by taxing small business is cutting the tree down as a sapling. Its no way to plant a forrest.
Trickle down is relevant and real my friend. We’re in the current economic position due to lavishness. Some working Americans became punch drunk during the Bush years. Many unqualified individual made alot of money everyone will pay for that to some extent. The real cost to us isn’t even the war at 10 billion a month… its the 800 Billion both candidates and the President wanted to try to rescue America. A true maverick woulda fought that. We should all be pissed.
The idea of a Democratic President, congress and house of reps should be scary to all, weather Barack was a Capitalist or Socialist or whatever in between, the far left wing will control the county and historic lows will pass, changing the direction of the county is a socialist way, and can possibly damage America forever.
What we should be arguing about is what we as Americans deserve from our government and what we expect from them. Again, you and I fundamentally disagree. I feel this should not be a free lunch society. i disagree completely with the desires of Karl Marx, and yes, would prefer Karl Rove when given the option between the two.
mk30r, your a funny mudda fukka, sweet!