We seriously need to go fuck Russia up.

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@ShalerPunk

that’s been bullshit since day one. we won our revolution due to an alliance with france. since the late 19th century, we’ve had allies globally. FDR was a liberal. More liberal than Obama. Practically a socialist. He had no issue with entering into a just war. We should be in Afghanistan. We should have MORE people in Afghanistan. We never should have gone to Iraq. We need to put people (as part of an international coalition) into Georgia and tell Russia to fuck off. I’m not saying we invade Russia or attack Russian targets. we’ve gone so many places in the last century with the stated motive of protecting democracy and freedom. georgia is a secular, democratic nation struggling against a horribly corrupt enemy with one hundred times Georgia’s military resources. An ally, a possible NATO member, and the least corrupt government in the region is under siege, and we’re doing nothing. i’m not a really big anti-flag fan… punk music gives me a headache.

You are either confusing several things or purposely omitting them for the sake of an argument.

Our government likes to propagate BS when they say we want to spread democracy/freedom. It was just a series of BS excuses to enter into Iraq. The difference between Russia and the USA is presentation. Russia doesn’t BS around with things of this nature, they just go and git’r’done as they wish. The USA will make up false excuses. We can’t compare the two. Russia is to strong right now for the USA to put on a fuss about Georgia. This is also Russia’s first military engagement since the fall in the 90’s and the separation of these former republics. They won’t take it lightly.

The Georgians see this solely as a territorial dispute and a question of national sovereignty. They do see this as a separation of Nationalism within what they consider their country/land. But this type of war is happening everywhere, not just Georgia.

Russia has a problem with Sakashvilli (sp). They see him as a Western puppet close to the Russian border.

All in all Georgia is asking not only the USA to help, but France and the EU as well.

Not everything should be our burden, no matter how many 2k troops are in Iraq. If you feel that strongly about it, enlist and request to go to Georgia.

The real question here is where was the USA 15yrs ago when all this began? Or 4yrs ago when this was starting to seriously escalate when Sakashvilli took power?