whats worse for you?

me and my friedns are arguing over whats worse for u… cigars or cigs??

you inhale cigs…so…

Cigarettes…

both cause cancer :gotme:

cigs…

both at the same time

if used in exactly the same fashionI would assume cigars are worse for you.

cigars cause mouth and tongue cancer, and cigs cause lung cancer.

which can you live without? thats the lesser of 2 evils

Can I add something to that? What about smoking pot?

According to my health teacher she says Pot is worse (1 joint = 5 cigs) which I think is BS.

As for cigs vs cigars I think cigars are probley a lot worse.

but what about medical pot… ? :slight_smile:

do you put a filter on your joints? if not, then yea… they are probably worse.

Cigars are more or less just tobacco, unless they are cheap ones. Cigarettes are mostly not tobacco, just tons of other ground up shit and chemicals.

EDIT Filters are pretty much counter productive. They are made of shit like fiberglass and other things you really shouldn’t want to put into your mouth.

like cock?

i would be pissed if cigs had cock in them

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weed from a bong > *

I don’t feel all achy, nor do I cough up a lung if I smoke from a bong. Inversely, I feel like my insides are trying to escape through my mouth when I cough after I smoke a joint.

*I haven’t smoked in months, drugs are bad, mmmkay?

crack.

there was just a study released not long ago (I think it was posted on here or ubrf) and it showed that THC actually helped fight off cancer when combined with cigarettes. The test was done on mice… the ones exposed to just tabacco smoke, had a much higher cancer rate than the ones exposed to tobacco & mary jane.

I’ll see if I can find it

edit:

By Amy Norton
Wed Oct 26,12:29 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Although both marijuana and tobacco smoke are packed with cancer-causing chemicals, other qualities of marijuana seem to keep it from promoting lung cancer, according to a new report.

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The difference rests in the often opposing actions of the nicotine in tobacco and the active ingredient, THC, in marijuana, says Dr. Robert Melamede of the University of Colorado in Colorado Springs.

He reviewed the scientific evidence supporting this contention in a recent issue of Harm Reduction Journal.

Whereas nicotine has several effects that promote lung and other types of cancer, THC acts in ways that counter the cancer-causing chemicals in marijuana smoke, Melamede explained in an interview with Reuters Health.

“THC turns down the carcinogenic potential,” he said.

For example, lab research indicates that nicotine activates a body enzyme that converts certain chemicals in both tobacco and marijuana smoke into cancer-promoting form. In contrast, studies in mice suggest that THC blocks this enzyme activity.

Another key difference, Melamede said, is in the immune system effects of tobacco and marijuana. Smoke sends irritants into the respiratory system that trigger an immune-regulated inflammatory response, which involves the generation of potentially cell-damaging substances called free radicals. These particles are believed to contribute to a range of diseases, including cancer.

But cannabinoids – both those found in marijuana and the versions found naturally in the body – have been shown to dial down this inflammatory response, Melamede explained.

Another difference between tobacco and marijuana smoking, he said, has to do with cells that line the respiratory tract. While these cells have receptors that act as docks for nicotine, similar receptors for THC and other cannabinoids have not been found.

Nicotine, Melamede said, appears to keep these cells from committing “suicide” when they are genetically damaged, by smoking, for instance. When such cells do not kill themselves off, they are free to progress into tumors.

THC, however, does not appear to act this way in the respiratory tract – though, in the brain, where there are cannabinoid receptors, it may have the beneficial effect of protecting cells from death when they are damaged from an injury or stroke, according to Melamede.

All of this, he said, fits in with population studies that have failed to link marijuana smoking with a higher risk of lung cancer – though there is evidence that pot users have more respiratory problems, such as chronic cough and frequent respiratory infections.

If marijuana does not promote lung cancer, that could factor into the ongoing debate over so-called medical marijuana. Melamede said he believes “marijuana has loads of medicinal value,” for everything from multiple sclerosis, to the chronic pain of arthritis, to nausea caused by cancer treatment.

U.S. government officials, however, maintain that the evidence for medical marijuana is not there. Ten states allow people to use marijuana with a doctor’s prescription, but the Supreme Court has ruled that federal law trumps state law.

SOURCE: Harm Reduction Journal, October 18, 2005.

Well, the real issue is that there isn’t much quality control in the pot industry. Certainly killing your customers is not a great idea if you’re making a career out of selling it, but to say the statistics are absolute is giving pot growers too much credit. Who knows what they’re adding to the soil to make their plants grow luciously.

not much can be added to the soil, infact the best way to grow is hydroponically in a nutrient solution just like you were growing organic tomato plants. Pot plants are finicky, and dont like to have much else added to them besides natural nutrients and CO2.

“Natural nutrients” can have negative effects. Just because something is natural does not make it safe. I understand you’re not going to be able to melt formaldehyde into the soil, but these natural chemicals can combine with chemicals in the body to form hazardous compounds.