No one ever said either was “safe.”
Just like no one was standing in front of Newman’s car.
Read the responses again.
Both are unsafe.
However one is more safe than the other. One has risks that can mitigated while the other does not.
That was painful to read. No surprise he modded a honda
This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.
How can we quantify Andy’s stupidity… I know! How about some Physics!
In a burnout situation, let’s examine the ENERGY involved…
Since the majority of the car is stationary, the only thing with any inertia is my drivetrain.
Rotational Inertia: Er = .5Iw^2
Where: I = moment of inertia and w = rotational speed
The moment of inertia of a rotating body is described as: I=.5Mr^2
Where M=mass and r= radius
Since r is the dominant term in the equation, for the sake of simplicity we can assume the I of the driveshaft, gears, etc are negligable. Also, since I’m a super baller and bought a bitching overnight JDM flywheel that’s super light, we’ll neglect that too.
So we are going to focus strictly on the wheels in this example, because they are going to represent more than 90% of the overall energy distribution
Substituting we get: Er = .25Mr^2w^2
My pair of rear wheels/tires weighs in at about 50kg, The radius is .165m.
Since I was going about 100 mph = 47m/s
and w = v/r = 285 /s
So the energy for the burnout Er = 27kJ
Let’s look at the energy for a car going 50mph:
In this case we have both spinning tires, AND translational mass.
Et = Er + Ek
We already know the formula for the rotational energy of all 4 tires:
M=100kg, r=.163, w=143
Inertia for 4 wheels = 13.5kJ
HOWEVER, we now need to examine the translational kinetic energy of an 1100 kg car going 50mph
This is defined as
Ek = .5mV^2
where m=1100kg and v=24m/s
Ek=317kJ
So Et for a drift car out of control at 50mph is 330kJ
THAT IS 15 TIMES MORE ENERGY, YOU FUCKING NITWIT
A+
Would read again!
I just lost my shit reading all the super legit math and smartguy stuff in newmans post followed by the outburst. people at work are asking if I am ok lol
Eh, everyone has days where they think “the plane won’t take off.”
No energy is “building up” or being stored in the tires. Energy is being released in the form of noise and tire smoke.
EDIT: I was posing this as a response to 38stang before Newman’s math post, lol
I went from feeling dumber for reading the last couple pages of garbage, to smarter after reading newman’s response.
THANKS NYSPEED! The more you know!
this site never surprises me, bottomline is newman and his sack riders, what you did was not safe, period. You know it, I know it, the rest of you know it. Lets take it to the next level, if burn outs are so safe? Why do they have cages around the majority of the cars? Sure to stop a exploding tire but also to have people be safe incase there was a slip up of the car or the driver loses it. For is smart is all of you think you are, your the dumbest people I have had to have a argument with over the internet. Newman since your so smart with everything, how fast was your tires spinning, 30, 35mph or even fast when you were changing gears in the video? What would have happened if your front brakes gave out? You think you would have had time to stop the car from going out of control and having time to stop it from hitting the two crowds in front of you to your left and right? I dont think so. I think it is even funnier that you double up the super sick action of jumping cars with a second car but that car had clutch issues and just sat there. Thank god it did just do that because like claimed earlier from one of the smart posts, “newmans car was BUILT to do burnouts!!”, but sadly the s2000 was not. I sit here and just laugh at the, stupidty I read on here! I WILL PUT THIS NEXT SECTION IN BIGGER LETTERS BECAUSE ITS COOLER:
SIMPLE MATH FOR THE NOT SO SMART:
CAR DOING A BURN OUT WITH TIRES SPINNING 20-35MPH FORWARD + PEOPLE STANDING OR SITTING IN FRONT OF CAR ABOUT 10 FEET + CAR DRIVER OR CAR, LOOSING CONTROL = TROUBLE
KEEP UP THE SUPER SIQQQQQ BURN OUTS WITH CROWDS AROUND YOU BUT PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING HOLY DO NO LET ONE PERSON ON A ENTIRE TRACK UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TAKE PICTURES, IT COULD BE BIG TROUBLE
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and yes my typing suck, I will give you that
but remeber when you watch this video, I want you to say something “America, FUCK YEAH!”
Listen you fuck.
First, most of the people who are “sack riding me” probably don’t even like me, and certainly wouldn’t tell anyone they did (except maybe josh)
Second, the TRACK let people stand in front of my car. I told them to move off to the side. They did.
Third, i was wound out in third gear. That’s >100 mph. I let off the brakes before I let off the gas when I was done with the burnout. Did you see how far I moved? About 15 fucking feet. I might as well have been trying to launch my car into the crowd on a fucking hockey rink, my car wasn’t launching anywhere.
Fourth, If you are so worried about danger, then maybe you should ride your high horse on down to that track on Wednesday nights, because S&R Cruise Night is a billion times more dangerous than anything that happened at the last BBQ.
Newman your so cute when your angry! At least you told people to move because you WERE the smart one some what, I applaud you for that!
I’m lollin, not hatin!
oh god, I give up, what you did was safe keep it up!
I’d be all for this, except the fact someone might have to take a car to delta sonic to clean off blood.
can you imagine how cool it would be if you could build up the energy and launch to 100mph by the 60’ mark. that would be insane.
YOU’RE
Oh NYSpeed
I was the camerman in this video… and I was behind a wall. 
Dude… .165m is 6.49 inches… making your wheel and tire combo only 6.5 inches tall (since you’re using the combined weight of both wheels/tires, your radius must have been the same?)…
Unless m is a variable (which it wasn’t, M was the variable), I don’t think so. Fail.
AndyB is smrtr then numen
This would be SO DOPE! Next time im at the strip ill brake stand it to about 150mph and let off the brakes and just act SUPER PISSED that the car didn’t launch at 150mph. hahaha