most of the time i dont listen to a word you say anyways, so your wasting your time. Nor do you read. Never said it wasnt rare, nor did i say i never liked it, i actually like the car a lot, but people claimed that it is a collectors car. I said only for honda guys. I also claimed that it is ridiculously priced with nothing to different done to the car. Also, the 08 or 09 cobalt ss is the fastest fwd car ever, just to get that straight