I heart video games. I also enjoy 'vettes. Nice car buddy.
best time at e-burgh was 1.18.184
started looking into cam/cam packages this weekend, dam the selection is huge, anyone have advice on what cam would be best for me. I hear alot about the reverse split cams. If anyone knows of a good brand thats trusted let me know, i am looking for a full package if possible, and depending on how price goes i mine as well do the heads while everythings open, any advice would be helpfull.
All I’m sayin is that if the dyno reads high…then it would of read high on the base runs too. So the 68hp increase is still a 68hp increase. Shrug.
TSP or Thunder Racing would be my choice if I were going to buy a package deal…
Reverse split cams can help in some situations, but for the most part a straight, or forward split is the way to go on the LSx motor… intake flow is always higher at the same duration and lift on the LSx heads. Sure, thats not the whole story, but it’s a good starting point.
You can make a lot of power with a TSP 224R or TR 224 and sacrifice very little. I would probably do a 114lsa if I had to do it again, although I do love the lope of my 112lsa…
Since you track your car, you may want to have a professional spec the cam for your application. I would suggest Patrick Guerra @ http://www.guerragroup.com/camshaft_help.htm – this guy is the real deal, he’s tried hundreds of cams in real life situations.
http://speed-eng.com/store/texas-speed-224224-camshaft-p-10497.html?options={313}1173 ok i wanna order the tsp 224 at 114 would that require me to replace the springs and such as well? is there a kit i can buy that has the springs rocker arms and such all together that you know of or can i just have that cam installed tuned with out the springs and rocker arms?
Rocker arms are not needed, the stock ones are more than adequate. You will require hardened pushrods in 7.400" and valve springs. I have Comp 918s, and they are still holding up after about 30k miles,
TSP offers a package with everything you need here:
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=174&catid=49
wow there is alot of options there, and being honest i don’t know what most of that means lol.
do i want the 224/224 xe camshaft or the 224R, and the standard platnum spring kit?
FML!!! another fucking c5. :Idiots
is it bad that there is another c5 on the forum?:ohnoes
The difference is the lobe design, the XE has a less aggressive lobe. The 224R uses the Comp XE-R lobes, which are more aggressive. The lift on the 224R is higher @ .581/.581.
I have used the TSP 224R with TSP 7.400" pushrods and Comp 918 springs for 5 years now, and it’s still running strong.
lol bought the 224R 114 lsa kit comes with Texas Speed Hardened Chromoly Pushrods and the and the comp cam springs $590.00, picking up the american racing LT headers and highflow cats. Making my appointment to have them installed and retuned. Thank you for your help Jd.
Fuck yea. I like it.
really?
are you kidding me??
Dude your the one of the biggest D-Bags on the site. All you do is start shit with people. The guy came in introduced himself and discussed what he thought about the numbers. Why the fuck is he doing anything wrong?
SSmokinn SS - there have been changes to the ls1 over the yeasr from 97-02 i had no idea that jd had so much knowledge how would I? i saw this and read up on it, which showed me that the ls1 had changes, so yes really.
'97 The LS1, GM’s generation III all aluminum engine makes it debut in the Corvette rated at 345hp. The LS1 has a deep skirted all aluminum block with 6 bolt mains. This block is 53 lbs. lighter than the LT1’s block. The aluminum heads have equally spaced tall, narrow ports which allows the injector spray to be aimed directly at the back of the intake valve. The composite intake has a low mounted plenum with the 15" long runners curving smoothly over the top of it. The LS1 uses a crank fire distributorless ignition system with one coil per cylinder. Corvette uses an electronic throttle while the V8 F-body uses a conventional throttle cable setup. The new Corvette uses a rear mounted transaxle which is connected
to the engine by a torque tube, instead of using a conventional transmission.
'98 LS1 is introduced in the redesigned 4th gen F-body and is rated at 305hp. The LS1 engines used in the Corvette and the F-body are essentially the same with only minor differences. The Corvette has coil covers, different exhaust manifolds and the alternator mounted high on the left side requiring a remote power steering reservoir. The Corvette LS1 has a slightly different camshaft profile which allows the engine to meet emissions requirements without using an EGR valve. The F-body has exposed coils and the alternator mounted on the left side below the power steering pump with integral reservoir.
'99 Minor changes in the head and valve cover. Coils are now mounted on a bracket bolted to the valve cover as one unit instead of individually. Valve covers have center hold down bolts instead of the '97-'98 perimeter bolts.
Trucks
The new Vortec V8s available this year are versions of the LS1 engine found in Camaros and Corvettes. The truck engines have a cast iron block with aluminum heads and a different intake manifold with the plenum above the runners. The truck LS1 variations are available in 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 liters. The exhaust manifolds are cast iron and the alternator is mounted high on the left side above the power steering pump with integral reservoir. The A/C compressor is mounted low on the right side like the LS1. The Vortec V8 transmission will bolt up to the Camaro and Corvette engines.
'00 F-bodies receives cast exhaust manifolds.
'01 F-bodies received a new cam profile which allowed removal of the EGR valve.
2001 and 2002 F-body receive the ZO6 intake manifold.
LS6 version of the LS1 available in the Z06 Corvette 385hp.
Corvette LS1 rated at 345 hp
dude no offence, but 99% of those changes, are external
different coil pack mounts, different valved cover setup, different alternator locations…like, really? you are going to say those are big differences?
The only two real differences were the LS1 to LS6 intake manifold and thhe different cam profiles like said above just because of emissions shit. The cam profile change didnt do dick between the two as far as difference in power wise…the only real difference was the LS1 to ls6 intake manifolds.
Take a 98 LS1, put a LS6 intake manifold on it and I will bet you 100$ that it dyno’s within 5-10hp on a 04.
I have actually personally even seen some 97/98’s put down more then 01’s+
BTW, F-bodys put my more power then C5’s with the same motor. Why? Because we have a straight axle and you have a IRS which is a drive train loss hogg. This doesnt mean shit, other then your numbers are very high.
A LS1 is a LS1 is a LS1. Check up on LS1 tech. Actually,make this post saying that there are big difference’s between the LS1’s. Watch how fast you get torn apart.
i know but your talking to someone new to the ls1 world, all i have done is reading research and reading forums and just trying to gather as much information as possible and your talking to me like i should be a certified gm mechanic lol. There might be a chance i am wrong about something, but its no reason to make someone feel like a retard about it. on a side not i would think there is a small diference between 305hp and 345 hp? I would rather have the IRS and have better handeling, correct? and for the reccord i would bet they would be more usefull and probably wanna help someone. I find it odd you go to one sight and read a whole bunch of stuff on how the ls1 evolved over its life and then you say nope its basicially the same, sorry i miss read other information.
there isnt any difference between 305, and 345 in the LS1 world
The LS1 was very under rated from the factory to begin with. The C5 just has a 345 hp rating because, why would they rate a F-body the same, that cost 15-20k less?? Its all about sales…in that post you made, it even said the LS1 in the f-body and the C5 are the same…but why would one have 40hp Less? Sales. C5 was gm’s highest sports car.They couldnt have a 2nd entry level pony car popping in with the same hp rating for thousands less…then no one would buy the C5.
but once they started hitting the dyno’s, LS1 f-bodys stock were putting down the same power as c5’s if not more…and that doesnt include the 335-345hp SLP package camaro’s and firehawks.
its cool i just ordered my cam pushrod and spring kit and when i get back from my vacation my wife is buying me the header package and i will be tuned, and see what my numbers are, maybe jd can hook me up somewhere on another dyno when i am done and i will have two sets of numbers so i don’t get so much back lash for posting my information lol.