I gave you reasons but your liberal blinders apparently worked.
You don’t need a reason. Why does someone need a car that exceeds the speed limit? Can you tell me that?
Guns will be around forever, you’ll never get them out of criminals hands. The general population should be taught on the general opperation of using a gun, because I could promise you that 1/2 of the people in our country have no friggin clue how to properly fire a gun. We all deserve to own whatever means nessessary to protect ourselves and our families.
There’s nothing you can say or ever do to prove that wrong. You can defend yourself with a pocket knife while we all have sidearms. :Idiots
An attachment your right my M4 never pulled security just like a grunt. I don’t what kind of commo guys you have but I was on every patrol. In fact here is link on page 8 I took the photos for that one.
http://www.popularmilitary.com/publications/commandoupdate40110.pdf
Who are you with?
Have you been deployed?
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Pm Dave and ask
My friend is a sworn peace officer with nys and has 16 years military experience.
This is getting too time consuming with a nul and void outcome changing no ones opinion, Cossey are you under the impression no one has been hurt while cleaning a fire arm? Wow your right ignorance itt
Those people were hurt because they failed to acknowledge simple firearm safety.
Rule 1 - Always handle a firearm as if it were loaded.
They deserve to get shot if they can’t safely handle a firearm.
Well this turned interesting.
Both sides have their points.
Do I love my guns and my AR? Course I do. Does it make sense as a gun? No more than me having a 1500whp street car would. Don’t get me wrong I would love to have it, but there is no way I could explain to my grandma or an average person why it’s my wants are logical. It would indeed be stupid to have a 1500whp street car.
Do I also want to own a Rocket Launcher and a flame thrower? Fuck yeah I do. But even the second amendment those are illegal and inpossible to get. Which brings me to my next point.
Those that say that laws don’t work. That’s an ignorant statement. Laws work, just not 100% of the time. Wanna prove me wrong? Go find that magical black market for an illegal flame thrower and a rocket launcher. Even if you somehow do, it won’t be as easy as going to your moms house or ordering one online.
Can this be FIXED by new laws? No that’s simply not gonna work.
Can this be FIXED by more people with guns? No, we already have one of the highest averages of guns per person. In most of the recent shootings it’s the (crazy) gun owners to begin with that are the problem. More people with guns = more crazies with guns.
And just because your 5th grade social studies teacher has a gun in her desk, it doesn’t mean it will help when somebody pops into the class and shoots her as she’s writing on the blackboard, providing another gun to the assailant.
And finally my favorite argument even if the navy trained armed magic dragon himself was next door to the classroom and got collected and ran in after 15 seconds and 10 shots later and killed the shooter. 10 dead children is acceptable for you? Sure it might be less than 20 but we were just crying about 3 dead in a mall shooting last week. There is “acceptable” number. “Better casualty rate” is not a solution to a problem. If you think otherwise imagine your kid or family member being one of the 10 and that will change your mind.
There is NO fixing this. Pray for this. Cry for this. Remember this. Do whatever your little heart desires. But you can’t stop somebody from inflicting damage to another person or people. Fact.
Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
On a public road you shouldn’t on a track you should.
In tight setting all things are safe to a point.
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Ask him what? I could care less who your friend was. Don’t buy guns if you don’t support them. Black and white, cut and dry. If there are stolen guns or potentially illegal weapons I would hope he would have confiscated the weapon and not “let it go back” without doing anything. Is that the problem in America we’re discussing right now, ignorance with firearms?
So in that logic there is nothing wrong with owning a gun for target purposes.
Can’t we all agree on a simple fact that crazies/idiots with gun are the problem?
Joe D, Killabird, Cossey, etc?
Let’s start from here.
Mental health in america.
This is by far the best thing you have posted/said/done all year.
Yes, but we also must acknowledge that mental health changes over time. What was normal several years ago there is now a pill for because it’s a “disorder”.
You essentially said what my point was that I was trying to get across with your post about 1500HP cars.
Completely unnecessary, they can kill multiple people, legal to own, and ok for recreational purposes. Just like an assault weapon.
^^^ this is a great post super level headed. I just wish we could protect everyone I know it’s a dream but we have to be able to do something to prevent.
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Like Cossey said, mental health has become prescribing a pill for normal emotions. I can’t believe people today are getting electro therapy for anxiety which in my opinion is a normal human emotion. What is that electro therapy doing to you? We carry on and scream about alcohol and organic food but we’ll strap wires to our head to combat a normal emotion.
By the way, you guys are FUCKED when KK goes to work Monday and starts posting in here.
Your damn right there are way more mental health issues. But how can it be treated. Now you get into funding and taxes OMG. Would you be willing to pay for health care.
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True. How should it be addressed to stop crazies from getting to guns?
Only thing I can imagine is most of these people wouldn’t be able to get references, but you can’t introduce reference rule on all (unless it’s a pistol and you’re in NY), and like you said people can go crazy at any point in time it seems.
So here is the next question now that we know where the problem is.
Can these individuals that snap be somehow discovered and attended to before it’s too late?
They aren’t like the Bieber Plotters, they do it quick and on a whim, with no other connections or financial gain/profit.
Part 2. Can we hire the next crazie to go after Beebs first before doing anything.
Part 3. Self reportation of crazies. Give them all the guns they want. Give them recognition they want. Send them overseas to a war zone as a one man army on their death wish.
Profit???11
Vlad. Stahpppp. You’re making way too much sense tonight. You gotta be drunk.
What I think will happen is a longer waiting period for gun purchases, at least a week, so more in depth background checks can be done, looking for mental health issues among others. This allows the ATF to piss away more money on staffing for these background checks and its a compromise from another ban.
Of course it doesn’t prevent an illegal gun purchase or theft but is that ever 100% preventable?
NY has a great pistol policy. Back in PA you just get a 10 minute background check and walk out with a pistol. I truly believe the reference system helps.
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I feel we shouldn’t need a permit to own a pistol in NYC. I’m fine w/ a permit to carry one though. That’s how most states are, and most of those states have less people killing each other than NY.