know him?
cough cough PM cough cough…
that sounds like a killer deal mike.
I want that GTO!!! 
a buddy went to test drive it monday, and they told him no test drive on GTO’s without working numbers… so i let him drive mine, and i think hes going back tomorrow to look at it again
Here are a few near you
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=235523997&dealer_id=1387867&car_year=2003&model=CORV&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&start_year=2001&keywordsfyc=em82&keywordsrep=122111054&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=200&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&make=CHEV&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=20000&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=21201&advanced=y&end_year=2008&doors=&transmission=&max_price=31000&cardist=100
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=233376603&dealer_id=570914&car_year=2002&num_records=25&model=CORV&systime=&make2=&start_year=2001&engine=&keywordsrep=122048054&keywordsfyc=ejA2&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=200&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&make=CHEV&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=20000&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=15236&advanced=y&end_year=2008&transmission=&doors=&max_price=31000&cardist=168
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=231330336&dealer_id=61231343&car_year=2001&num_records=25&model=CORV&systime=&make2=&start_year=2001&engine=&keywordsrep=122048054&keywordsfyc=ejA2&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=200&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&make=CHEV&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=20000&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=15236&advanced=y&end_year=2008&transmission=&doors=&max_price=31000&cardist=200
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221190375&dealer_id=59999117&car_year=2001&num_records=25&model=CORV&systime=&make2=&start_year=2001&engine=&keywordsrep=122048054&keywordsfyc=ejA2&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=200&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&make=CHEV&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=20000&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=15236&advanced=y&end_year=2008&transmission=&doors=&max_price=31000&cardist=200
If it’s going to be his only car I say IS350. But you’re not going to find one w/ decent options under $30k. I got an IS250 since I still have the Z06. Compared to the Z06 the IS350 is still slow, so what’s the point? The 250 gets crazy good mpg, is insanely nice/comfortable etc. The GTO is also still a really nice option. The new ones still sitting on lots are going stupid cheap out here… dealers just can’t have ’06 “new” cars on their lots. You shouldn’t pay more than low 20s for a brand new GTO.
I guess if I was out where you all are I’d consider the AWD. The stock wheels are gh3y but the ClubLexus guys are putting big wheels on them and making the coilovers and springs and such work on them. So you can still make it look nice. The nice thing w/ the non-AWD is all but the super stripers already have really nice 18s that look good w/ just some little wheel spacers behind them.
If you get any BMW I’d extend out the warranty/maintenance plan. Headache free BWM ownership is worth it. But I’d NEVER own a BMW I had to pay for repairs as a DD. The only out of warranty BMW I’d ever consider owning would be E30 or E36 M3s as dedicated track cars.
I’m driving a E39 M5 right now (it’s a ’04 or whatever the last year was). It’s my housemate’s car but he’s back east so I get to drive his FD RX7 and M5 to keep them fresh. Haha. It is a really nice/fun car. It handles and drives much nicer than a nearly 4k lbs sedan should. Power is good, though not mind blowing.
The one thing about this car that disappoints big time is squeaks/rattles. It’s actually really bad… worse than the ’02 SS with twice the miles on it my girl just bought. Every surface in the cabin is covered in leather, and the headliner is suede. It’s pimp… but I think a lot of it is the leather squeaking against other leather pieces. It also sounds like the rear window causes a lot of the noise… chassis flex??
I thought about trading my IS250 on one a local dealer had. Then I drove it. The power is nice, on paper it’s faster than the E39 M5, but it didn’t “feel” it. But the interior is atrocious and the feel/quality just isn’t there. I’ve lusted after a CTS-V since they came out, but I had never actually driven one, or even been in one. I was hoping to drive it and be blown away and “have to” buy it. But instead it turned me off big time, very disappointing.
I’m spoiled on weather so I can’t really compare… but I just hate driving FWD. Ever.
All the hemi cars DO NOT respond well to mods. The computer is the issue, and nobody is truly into it yet. Look at the SC kits out there for the hemi cars… they’re using a injector plate sandwiched beyind the TB. That’s old-school ghetto shit like we did on LT1s back in the mid 90s before LT1Edit came out.
I call :bs Why do ppl always feel they need to over-state their MPG. I find it really hard to believe you do 50% better than the new (2008 standards) EPA average rating for your car: Fuel Economy of the 2003 BMW 330i
Even freeway only how do you get 5 MPG better than the 2008 EPA ratings? MT and other magazines have done a lot of comparing to the new 2008 standards and they are proving to be very accurate (unlike the old methods).
E46s are okay I guess… but if and only if it has lots of warranty coverage left. The driving experience is nice. But you pay a lot more to get the same level of luxo/hp as Lexo. And the Lexo nav is much, much better than BMW’s crap (I hate the system in this M5).
Again, :bs but this time :bs x eleventeen billiondy-five. You expect us to believe you get about 115% better MPG than the EPA’s ’08 average rating of 14 MPG? Fuel Economy of the 2004 Ford Crown Victoria CNG
Again, even the freeway rating is only 17 MPG, so where did you find that extra 13 MPG?
If quality, mod-ability etc. doesn’t matter to you. I prefer the look of the TB, but that’s totally subjective. I will give you credit though that the TB interior flat-out sucks. Hard.
So overrated. Yes they can make big HP cheap. I will not lie, I respect the power they can make on a stock longblock. But they are pigs, the interiors are such shit, and they don’t handle well (even w/ the IRS, which is a compromised system w/ poor geometery).
If you want to look like every Johnny pot-dealer that thinks he’s a cool guy and has the 6cyl 300 on 22” rims w/ the stupid ass 22” badge on the fender. I would want nothing to do w/ a 300 and the look/stigma that goes w/ them.
FWD FTL. And a TSX starts at $28,190. So that’s over $30k once you put tax/fees on it. And that’s w/o nav and the fun options. So what exactly is he putting in the bank?
-TJ
I call bs on the crown vic getting 30 mpg, too. My parents hasve a 1995 Grand Marquis & a 1999 Grand Marquis (both same cars as the crown vic). The '95 gets 17 mpg around town & will smoke the '99 (I used the '95 about 2 years ago for a month when my DD was totalled by a deadbeat & was waiting for my ins check - I got 16-17 mpg “combined” driving, mostly city, though). My dad says the '99 is a dog & only gets 13-14 mpg.
BTW the 1995 has 266,000 miles & the 1999 has 24,000 miles.
Nice replies 
Say what you want man, i dont really care if you call bs or whatever, im the one driving the car. The window sticker says 21/30 and i usually get around 29, I got 32mpg when i was driving down to the beach. Unlike the 03 you posted, mine is an 04 with the performance package, so it has a 6 speed instead of a 5 speed.
*edit it said 21/30 not 21/29
also my combined driving yields me 26mpg
yeah but one is 12 years old and the other is 8… his may be newer. i could see gettin 30.
Used Buick Regal?
Other than cosmetic changes, the Crown Vic’s/Grand Marquis are relatively unchanged from 1992-2008 (2006 being the last Crown Vic). The motor is exactly the same = 229hp 4.6L modular V8, same trans, same rear gears, etc. The 2003’s have aluminum front crossmember/suspension components. I could see a marginal difference in the '03 & up cars due to the lighter weight, but not 13 mpg difference.
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A stock 04 crown vic police interceptor is just as fast as a stock marauder in the 1/4 mile. The DOHC motor in the marauder is easier to mod but not quite as reliable as the 2v mod motor.
As far as driving a car around every day, the vic is hard to beat. The 300 may be faster and look different, but it’s a dodge. And Dodge’s fucking blow.
I got 29.8 MPG in my crown vic the last trip to the outer banks. My wife drives the car around town and gets about 18. 2.73 gears FTW
The police interceptor package has 250hp and the sport package has 240hp.
They still make crown vic’s for fleet service and for police departments. I heard that anyone can goto the dealer and get a new crown vic with the police package. :dunno:
Good thing I said used Acura TSX. They can be had easily for around $20k…
And FWD is good for a DD, we see snow here unlike SoCal, and even though most of us are pretty good drivers, it’s more peace of mind to have a FWD 4 cyl car.
Haha or he can get a Cavalier. I get 30 mpg usually.
You sure can, last I heard. Just a stripped down CV with heavy duty suspension components and 240 HP. Vinyl seats and floor covering FTW
30 grand!?!?!?
why not an 01 cherokee 
He’d have a shit load to put in the bank if he went for one. Grand Cherokees on the other hand… :tounge:
used TSX for the win… that honestly might be my next car.
http://www.gmgiant.com/VehicleDetails/841579164
im looking at this on monday the trade in value on mycar sucks !!! if i can get 10k trade in ill pick this up other wise ill continue to look