including the fact the the ORIGINAL version of this story was a internet rumor that the fire dept deemed the building unsavable WHILE THEY WERE STILL EVACUATING IT … and decided they should just blow it up
ya know … before everyone was out … which deffinantly makes sense
the bottom line is that its easy to take the facts … and take clips where people are stating their opinions … and then twist it into anything you want … especialy when you have an entire metropolis like NYC that witnessed / heard / survived the event
I will say this. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me that a building of that size falls straight down and all the debris is concentrated in a relatively small area.
If it was a controlled demolition, whoever did it saved hundreds of thousands of lives, at the cost of a few thousand.
I find it hard to believe that after 20 years of cold war, we had no intel warning us of the 9/11 attacks, wether we could do anything about it or not.
I believe there have been contigency plans in existance for nearly any concievable terrorist attack long before there was an Al-Queda.
I believe walter should be shot in the crotch.
“There is only one man I’m afraid of and his name is Osama Bin Laden.” Oliver North- Iran Contra hearings.
Did any of you see the footage of the plane that crashed into the pentagon? It was a similar movie as this one with pictures and whatnot. From what the video said, there was no plane wreckage inside the pentagon. No discernable piece recovered to show that it was indeed a plane that had destroyed the Pentagon…
I found this link and thought it interesting… Not to say that this is what happened or I believe any of it, but check it out…
There is great evidence that “the Roosevelt administration was fully aware of the
oncoming [attack on Pearl Harbor]” before the attack occurred. Before the attack on Pearl
Harbor “88 percent of Americans opposed U. S. involvement in the European War.”
However after the attack there was overwhelming support for it. At the time of the attacks
there were no aircraft carriers, or any other valuable ships, in Pearl Harbor. Only aging
ships, which were, after the attack, refurbished. After the attack they were better than
before.
To prevent civilian ships from stumbling on the Japanese task force, and alerting
Pearl Harbor, the US navy issued and order prohibiting civilian ships from traveling
through the north pacific. There is evidence that the day before the attack anti-torpedo
nets were removed for unexplained reasons.
The Pearl Harbor conspiracy is still but a theory, but a commonly accepted
theory. It’s your decision.
Here is some more from this document that relates to the content that Zwarbyt posted in his first post.
As further evidence the way the towers collapsed was not consistent with the
damage. The plane impacted from the side. The supports on this side would’ve been
weaker. Incidentally most of the fuel was gone within seconds of the impact hence the
fireball immediately following the crash. The papers furniture and other such office
supplies was what burned after the crash. When the central core began to melt it would
soften before liquefying and lean towards the side where the plane impacted. The weight
would move to the side causing it to lean even further… and further… until it would
eventually fall to the side, taking a small portion of the structure below the point of
impact with it. How ever it would kill more people as it would fall on them. In the first
tower to collapse the top did slightly lean to the side during the collapse as can be seen in
figure 2. While in the second tower to collapse the top went straight down without tilting,
consistent with an implosion. The way the smoke and debris clouds formed during the
collapse of the first tower to collapse is also consistent with an implosion as can be seen
in figure 3. Leading the writers of this paper to believe that there were demolition
explosives installed in the towers. This was likely done by the contractors that were in the
World Trade Center on 9-11.
Fuel vapor and atomized fuel burns (i.e. spray) The liquid fuel would take some time to burn, not all flash immediately.
The Towers colapsed in an implosive manner because their support structure was the outside of the building. The center of the Towers was the weakest part.
Yea, it was interesting, but its not really believeable. They made it seem like in the video that the planes hit and the explosions coming out the other side werent from the planes. They neglected to mention the jet engine that went through and landed on the street. Additionally, it would be so difficult for people who have never flown this plane (which behaves like a pig compared to the piper cubs they learned to fly on im sure) except in MS Flight Sim to take it and say ok I.m going to hit that floor because that where the explosives are… Thats insane… and they would have had to do this 2 times with 2 different people. Its terrible that they managed to hit the buildings somewhere in the middle ish area , but to say they were aiming for specific floors, thats rediculous.
The explosions that can be seen can be from the building could be from swaying and what not which as mentioned in a previous post could blow out a section of windows where the bending point is. The melted steel at the bottom?? Shit I am sure there were gas lines and stuff below the building when it collapsed, i mean they were putting out fires for days in the rubble, i think it might have even been a month. This theory really is not feasible, more of a diversion for you to occupy your brain for a few minutes and spark some conversation.
Yea Im almost certain (but not completely because generally speaking, im not very bright) that when they design those building they take into consideration “what if” situations…I’m sure they make them so if they fall, they will go straight down…not to metion the engineers who designed the towers said they could withstand a strike from a 747
ummm…you do relaize that bush scored higher on the sats and did better in school than Kerry right? hes not stupid at all, if he were he would no be president, who his father is has nothing to do with it. he just sint a good public speaker, it happens.
I know Bush isn’t as dumb as everyone thinks, afterall he did pull one over on 51% of the country. But the SAT’s are hardly a proper measure of intelligence. I scored a 900, had straight b’s and a’s in highschool and graduated college with a b average.
Bush may be “smart” but hes making really bad decisions some may consider “dumb”.
This doesn’t change the fact that I would like to see him drop his pants, get down on all fours and scream wer’re all gonna die.
And as for my last post. I saw a documentary on “Modern Movels” about the world trade center, and they did in fact engineer it so it could withstand plane strikes. As for the makers of titanic, I’m just glad they casted Leo, hes hot.
the wtc’s werent designed to take a hit from a 747 …
it was the 707 that was out during the design of the twin towers, and thats what the design would have been bases around
like you said … designed to withstand the impact, but once the insulation burns off the support beams the fuel will cook the carbon out of the steel
they were designed to take a hit from a 707, which carries 23,000g of fuel but the 747’s that hit carried 57,000g of fuel
big fuckin difference
after the first 23000 gallons burn out of the building, your prolly nearing the limit of the design, and then you still have 24000 left to burn …
take a piece of high carbon steel (rocker panel or frame material) and attempt to bend it … then get it red hot with a torch, let it cool and try again …