A Look at the War and What is at Stake.

I guess you dont see the OBVIOUS…If 99% of terrorist attacks are carried out by muslim males in a certain age group, as a responsible security officer, what would you do? Search elderly chinese women? Profiling is what investigators do to narrow down possibilities. Its a technique used by professionals to do their jobs efficiently. When it comes to life and death of your families and friends one would think you would be a bit more objective on the matter. Good thing people like you dont work for the FBI.

you’re right we should target the group of people most likely to hate us, and make them hate us more by profiling, and that will solve all the problems and stop terrorist attacks
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Well I guess every FBI investigator is doing it all wrong then. You should write them and set them straight since you seem to be the self appointed authority on quite a few things. Dont make the Musilims mad because they might bomb the same spot twice.

Shouldn’t we traget the french then?

And sadly people like me work for the FBI, CIA and DEA

No no no, you see we should be in EGYPT blowing them towel heads up, being that almost all the 911 terrorists lived there or were born there.

The war on terror is gay, more people die in car accidents in one year than have died from 9/11, Pearl Harbor, Katrina, Bucky,the Bike Path Rapist, and all other terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in the last 100 years . Combined.

Are we spending the Hundreds of Billions of dollars on vehicle safety, highway improvements, and traffic enforcement? If the government put as much effort into automotive safety as they do inspecting my stinky shoes at the airport they could save tens of thousands of American lives.

On a side note my 3 best male friends are black, half-black and Korean.

If Im racist then you are just a asshole.

—sad indeed

right but no towel head sand monkeys

amirite?

tard

You are right. But a car crash is a accident most of the time.

You lose a aircraft of 130+ innocent families and kids… thats just on a different level. People are not afraid to leave their homes because of traffic accidents. Talk to some of the people that survived the IRA subway, bus, and restaurant bombings in England. That shit is on a entirely different level. It creates a sense of panic and hysteria in people. Most dont handle that type of stress well and it leads to more chaos. Either way… apples to oranges … regardless of final numbers.

  1. The US government is nearly powerless to prevent terrorist attacks. Increased security is to give the public at large a warm fuzzy.

  2. Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism. It is about securing western intrests in the middle east and stopping iran and syria from dominating the region.

To those that tow the administration line on Iraq, what do you believe our goal is there. Not what is at stake, what is our cause?

SADDAM IS BAD! HE GASSED THE CURDS*** He killed 100k peoplez

**(after the US promised them support in overthrowing saddam but instead left them defensless and wrote off the whole thing once our intrests had been met)

You take that stance and you will be turning more peaceful Muslims into extremists thus making the situation worse.

If the war in Iraq was a justified one, I can see your point and I would agree but this is not the case. Unorthadox solutions are going to turn this thing around.

If you believe that the death of people in a terrorist attack has any more impact than those who die in an accident, YOU are the reason the terrorists have any power at all.

You really are fucking stupid. Its like talking to a retarded, one legged chimp with ADD and AIDS. Glad this little forum gives you a bit of self worth and satisfaction. Thats about the most control a closed minded simpleton like yourself will achieve. Clicky, gayblade, circle jerks still in effect.

These clusterfuck threads conversing with the treminally stupid are amusing at times but Jays has the right idea. Thanks for the laugh.

fast foods kill more americans too

QUICK ERRRBODY GET THEM CLOWN LOOKING BURGER NIGGAS WRAPED UP IN BOX AND GET EM OFF DA PLANES TOO, SPECIALY THE CROWN WEARING FAGGOT WIT DA SEPTAR

no my great job, beautiful house, and soon to be wife give me satisfaction

picking on you and your back-ass beliefs just fills my time

wow. touchy subject. lotsa ballsy people in here. gotta respect everyones opinion and i see a little bit of everyones point.

we have enemies. only way to be “safe” is to eradicate those enemies. tough to do when they have no central location. yes, it can be argued that muslims are the ones doing the damage so muslims are who we should profile, but the percentage of people in the muslim religion, who are for the cause of destroying the US and western culture is small comapred to the worlds population of muslims.

in a way…yes i am glad i can say “doesnt effect me, so i dont have to care” as ashamed as i am to admit that…but unfortunately i think that happens to be fine print on the contract of living the american dream. what sucks is i am very certain that this will not be the case for my children. america wont be the #1 super power very much longer as hard as that is to imagine…i just think thats the inevitable truth. noone stays #1 forever, cuz everyone is always gunning for #1. and when i think of it that way i want to say “turn the middle east to a sheet of glass, civilians or not” becuase thats really the only way to ensure safety…but i couldnt push that button…i would hate to be the person who would.

Jack, I think your point of posting this was very good and the main point you were trying to drive home is something that only someone who is not born in this country can and I commend you. There are only a handful of members on this board who could truly have that point of view as they were not born here in the US and have spent time living outside the US in europe and asia. I only have 2nd hand knowledge and research to go on. My sources are very good and being that war history is one of my few hobbies aside from cars guess what I study.

You have the unique perspective of living life far removed from everyday American life and for that again I value your insight.

For someone who is now living here but was not coddled in America to post this holds much more weight then just some flag waving red neck. I don’t think most people realize that you are a foreign born and probably grew up during the Cold War under a Communist regime where life was indeed harsh to say the least.

I agree with much of the facts and POV posted in that essay, for one, Hitler indeed killed many many HUMANS. Not just Jews. Hitler was speculated jewish born, raised Christian and turned a Nation to Paganism. When Hitler marched with Austria through eastern Europe and the Balkans he hated and killed hundreds of thousands of Russian Orthodox Christians and Serbian Orthodox Christians. He desimated the Balkans. On top of that some of the feuding ethnic groups like Turkey and what was the Persian Empire (modern day Iraq, Syria, Lebanon etc, anything between the Tigris and the Euphredis) supported Hitler and was supported by him because they shared a common goal. Complete Ethnic Cleansing of the Jews and Orthodox Christians. Hitler made the Grand Mufti his honorary Muslim SS. He could not of course be SS as he was not german however he recruited many muslim nations to join Hitler in exterminating the Masses and so they did. Very Very disturbing,

After WWII and when Israel was formed The Bath (saddams party) was formed in Syria which based their fascist muslim think tank philosphies heavily on Hitlers teachings and the Nazi Regime. This is only a sliver in the thousands of years of blood shed and hatred that spans back millenia.

We have a very very naive outlook on the world and a unique ability to NOT understand just how these conflicts started, continue and just how PROUD the people are and how much HATRED boils in their veins for which ever group they are against (I am speaking of many groups not just muslims, ex. Serbs and Albanians, Serbs and Muslim Bosnians, Muslims and Jews) No group is ever innocent. Jews have committed as much acts of terrorism in the eyes of muslims as muslims have in the eyes of the Jews. Same with the Balkans.

We as Americans and America have only been around 231 years. Being isolated from the “old world” have forgotten just what it is like to have countries that are hundreds and even thousands of years old with people who pass on their blood feuds. You grow up every day seeing the kinds of things that as Americans have not seen the likes of. You cannot imagine the atrocities that I hear of from friends and families.

The world is getting smaller by the day, communication is bringing the horror right into your face. Yet to understand a problem you must first recognize it as a problem then investigate the root cause. Some of these fights you will never truly understand unless you see it and live it first hand.

I have a very unique perspective for understanding as my girlfriend is not only a refugee from Kosovo who moved here in 99 when the Serbs were murdering her families. She is also ethnic Albanian, and Muslim. My sister is also dating an Albanian American who also is Muslim. I am Catholic. I get all sides. Ones from the front where the fighting is, one from the perspective of living as an American Muslim. I can tell you this, they are some of the best people I have ever met. To sit and to LISTEN to what others have to say about their background, their experiences, and their peoples view of the US especially when they are not from this country is the best way to truly understand the problem.

We are in some serious shit. To deep to back out now. We didn’t start it, We can’t end it. We were drug in but we also have fanned the flames with poor foriegn policy that has exploited the middle east and it’s people for soo long and supported enemies on both sides of conflicts. It’s Karma and it will come back and get you. We are only beginning to see the backlash of it now.

In parts of the world like Israel/Palestine, The Balkans, Iraq with it’s tribes, Africa with their tribes that have become mechanized. It is kill or be killed everyone is fighting for that scrap that last morsel of freedom and it is a policy of complete assimilation and extermination that is only understood there. It has been going on long before the US was a hope in our fore fathers eyes.

This is the world we live in. Our best bet is to start saying were sorry, looking at the problem and do our best to mend things.

This will not happen. The US will not do this and I understand that. Our governments job is to protect us and sustain our way of life. I know I can honestly say that knowing what I know I would not want to live like post cold war Russia or Kosovo. So if it is a survival of the fittest (as is the nature of life) I can only hope we come out on top because it is dog eat dog. At this point in time we are either aware of this situation and prepared to support it or we will eventually collapse under it as a nation and people and our American way of life as we know it will cease to exist and we will learn what it is like to have to truly survive.

I would like to say that I am not Anti-American or Pro-Muslim. I am a realist and only hope that those we have elected to power can do the right things when the times come no matter what the outcome.

Kevin, this is made possible by the American way of life that is severely threatened. One day you may wake up and you may not have those things. Cherish them now while you can as they are precious.

I think this was the main point of the entire thread. :slight_smile: