Age old battle : Displacement VS Technology

when he isnt in spool he definitly is

:sleep

You’re wrong. when cruising around it doesnt matter how big of a turbo they run, it doesnt consume any more fuel than any other one should, assuming its tuned properly. obviously injector sizing plays a role in fuel efficiency, but you can run a staged injection system with 2 sets of injectors for good mileage if its a major concern.

ill even go ahead and say you can make 800whp drive to cali and back and get 35mpg in a built turbo honda. practical no but possible yes.

a good header in a honda is 1000-1200 dollars, thats for a 4 cylinder. a k20 with those same bolts ons and tuning pick up about 30whp too.

there is no replacement for displacement, but obviously efficiency could be a dealbreaker as well.

Lets not forget the Mighty turbo trans ams of 1980 and 1981. Keep in mind, these were factory TURBO V8 cars…made a WHOPPING 210 hp at the crank!.. lol
1980 Turbo Trans Am 16.30 86.78 Hot Rod 3/80
1981
VIN engine code T
301 Turbo engine codes:
BO or CJ, 301CID, 210 HP, 7.5:1
Transmission: MC
RPO option code:
LU8 = 4.9L Turbo

If a car with 200cc injectors injects 200cc of fuel @ a given pressure and gets 30 mpg @ 9 psi and that same engine then has 650cc injectors installed and upped to 20psi, your going to flow ALOT more fuel, about 3 times as much for math iliterates. BTW The car is only out of boost when under vacuum like at idle or cruising at 75 on the highway with a tailwind and flat ground ahead of you, at all other times there is 1-30 psi of pressure going into the intake. I would bet money that you cant prove your statement at all, So if you never went up hill or had to load the engine and drove like grandma you might squeeze 20-25 out of a 700 hp 4 cyl,fucking maybe.

there was a stock turbo trans am?

sweet, learn something every day

Yeah in 1989, limited edition, white w/ the gold wheels i have on my T/A…came with a similar motor to that of the Grand National…also known as the “TTA” or the Pace Car edition…also had one in 1980 as Jay stated…but the TTA was better ;D

still weak

shiiitsss weak

Yeah i know, low 12’s out of the showroom in 1989 is weak ::slight_smile:

Not sure why it’s not believeable. Have you seen some of the power curves with these cars? They can drive all day and not make power if they choose too.

I make the about the same MPG on the highway since stock (~250WHP) vs now (about 400WHP more). The car isn’t going to be utilizing all this fuel unless I make it happen and my car has a closer powerband that a 700HP Honda.

Low 12s with 200CHP? What coke you on?

That was the 1980 one, not the '89 TTA

Well I was talking about the one Plan B was talking about.

BS dude maybe 5-10 MAX

oh and parts for my cobra are deff not cheap

4v=not cheap :headbang

Yea. That’s what confused me too. Friggin OT posts!

Not OT at all, he didn’t know there was a factory Turbo Trans Am…

Even the LD5 made 276 (I gues it was underated to 300CHP) but not sure where LOW 12s come…

He was talking about A and you confused us all with B. Also, see post above.

On M/T’s, running 23psi, race gas as well, nothing else but a turn up in boost an '89 TTA went…

1/4 Mile ET: 11.980
1/4 Mile MPH: 113.800
1/8 Mile ET: 7.680
1/8 Mile MPH: 91.240
0-60 Foot ET: 1.740

a bone stock one(my mistake) went 13.5, with absolutely nothing done to it…

Shit. That means my car comes with 6XXAWHP right from the factory too. Awesome!

I wish I knew that before I dropped like $20K into it.