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I can go on and nit pick all day. All I’m saying is, respect the rider who’s down and keep your hypocritical judgment to yourself. Non of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, he paid for his. Nobody is in full control of a wheelie on a public road, there is always the X factor whether it be dog, car, pothole, pedestrian, blown tire etc. The tree happened to be there.
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Agree with this 110%
R.I.P.
lol ive seen professional stunters loop wheelies i guess they should find new work
You guys are all *****…
A professional stunter, has more miles in wheelies than you do on the bike, and on public roads, parking lots, practice tracks, and shows… they get paid to “ride outside their limits” BUT when they crash, they have the skill to crash right. Anyone who races, skiis/snowboards better than the average joe, and takes their sport to the next level knows how to crash “right”.
This guy I am willing to bet was not one, neither am I and neither is Chris. BUT we grew up onthis shit, we have paid the price a few times, and wont deny it. I hate the term, “riding in your limits”… My limits are different than chris’, than yours, than chad reeds, than nicky haydens… It is stupid to judge what is is isnt someones, “riding limit”
Just becasue I didnt loop out my street bike on a wheelie doesnt mean i dont know the limit of a wheelie on my bike… I fucking do know it, I have taken past the ballance point a bunch of times, but I have the skill to back off and feather the break to bring it back to the point and keep going… once i hit the point, i can go for a long time, and maintain a steady speed and lean the turns… just like a pro stunta! but i dont call my self one… i just know how to do some of their “stunts”
People need to get off the nutts of people who “ride”. someone that knows what the fuck their doing. people who cant ride, ie, shorts, tee shirt, sneakers, power wheelies, can lean into a turn… those people are the one to go after… not people like chris and I that grew up on machines, and have more controll with the few years expierence than people twice our ages.
These professional stunters who ride “outside their limit”, crashing “right” for some reason think that gear isn’t part of crashing right. And by gear I don’t mean just a jacket and helmet, ankle protection is needed just as bad at 5 mph wheelie as it is at 100mpg lowside.
If all professionals new this trick to crashing “right” there would be no injuries in Motocross, Xgames, snowboarding etc. Yes there is a proper way to brace your body, but when you’re flying in a direction of a tree at high speed, tumbling, it doesn’t matter how many times you’ve practiced tuck and roll.
I hope the miles comment wasn’t directed at me either.
For the record “the limit” was first brought up by Chris himself.
As far as the balance point… well point goes, if you can go pass the balance point and come back, well then it wasn’t the limit then was it? It’s the safe neutral.
People who don’t wear gear in general are not thinking about what they are doing, or the consequences of what can potentially happen. These people are to be avoided because they do not understand the risk and cost of riding.
Every post I make that has had to do about riding, my bike, etc, I have you (vovchandr) and everyone else with sport bikes on my nuts like they are some high and mighty “rider.”
When I ride with different people I can tell whether or not they know what they are doing. My one friend has (had?) an F4i and I used to ride with him a lot, and he was terrible. He did power wheelies for about 500ft and thought it was awesome, and not only that but on rt 9 in crazy traffic. Then he rips on me for riding casually on 9 then screaming by him once we get further away from civilization in the twisties. Oh, he also went down hard this summer (with no gear) and totalled the bike. I don’t think he’s been out since.
Everything is relative. Limits, your bike, etc. It’s all relative.
Your idea of fun might be a track day, while mine might be launching off loading ramps at 1am. Like I said, it’s all relative.
There is no telling at all what type of “rider” this guy was, for all we know he was in full leathers and an avid and experienced amateur racer that made a mistake getting to hard on the throttle to early and paid for it with his life. The guy made a mistake, no one knows why he made that mistake except him and we all make mistakes in everything. Including our riding, daily.
Is there some sort of abandoned warehouse around here (if that’s what you meant)? That actually sounds like a ton of fun.
every single person out on a bike knows what can happen. The good ones also know its not if you crash, it’s when you crash. If they don’t know those too things, then they are bound to find out. most riders are rather unsympathetic towards riders, we just show our respects because most of us knows what it’s like (non-fatal accidents of course). I’m not saying we are apathetic to it, we just don’t worry about it as much as most other people. The part where we truly regret is when it’s caused by the actions of an inconsiderate/ignorant driver.
I agree with KKKustom to an extent, I just dont think any kind of experience, whether it be knowing how to ride or how to crash, comes into play when you get nailed at 85mph from a person who didn’t check their mirrors. Thats just the risk we all take.
So far said the best i think. Anyone human has respect for someone who died or got hurt. No doubt about it. But when you do something to yourself, it is like “your just asking for trouble” with your actions, then its just part of the game. When someone else messes up or kills someone who didnt see it comeing it is completely different.
EXACTYLY. The reason I dont read the papers, or watch the news. They dont list any of the details, and people get mixed emmotions over it. Sorry for the poor guy and his family. Thats as far as it should go becasue NOBODY here “knows” what happened.
Never mentioned gear at all in the statment I made. And yes any professional rider, has spin protection, Hans braces, high end helmets, knee braces, ankel braces, you name it.
Again, I dont think I said there would be absolutly NO injuries. The injuries and deaths are minimized. That a person who never rode a MX bike. If they can get it into 3rd gear and aim at a 65 foot table top, they have a shot at clearing it. It is physics. If they end up nosing over, they dont know what to do and till just hold on for the ride. A better rider, who knows what to do pegs the throttle and pulls the front up as much as they can… the 2 seconds your in the air, you know if you are going down or will be ok… if your fucked your bailing, and then your positioning your body and moving the bike in such a way to MINIMIZE getting hurt. That is the skill I refrenced.
The flying at a tree, is common sense, and again physics. object in motion stays in motion until acted upon A TREE. Dont set your trojectory up to a tree, and you wont hit it. Mistake was made well before the crash.[/QUOTE]
The miles thing COULD be directed to you. But I have yet to ride with your or meet you for that matter. But when i do, if I do… who knows. The comment was for all the people who ride inside their comfert zone for ever… and never progress their skills. Someone who rode 50 different bikes, and has thousands of miles under their belt, could still be a fucking noobie… if they just figure out how to ride a bike, and dont push themselfs to get better. People die, people get killed. They are two verry different outcomes. Just recently Jerremy Lusk died doing a trick he has done more times, then you or I fart. People in the sport, see it as a death. People out of the sport, see it as an accident. People WAY out of the sport, see it as stupid. bottome line… its again, all opinions.
Yes. Crazyz250 and I ride there sometimes, or used to anyway. It was fun watching Brian fall down because the warehouse floor was a lot slipperier than we thought :rofl