^ i figured as much. eh, ill figure it out. i just dont want to spend $200 on a stainless collector that i cant weld to anyway. there is a guy on H-T that sells angle cut straight pipes for collectors, but i dont like the way they fit, there is a gap the longer span of the flange that gets filled in by thye weld, and to me its a waste because the collector is smaller than the inlet, and that defeats the purpose.