lol decently price is what im looking for haha
[quote=“01AudiS4,post:3,topic:28834"”]
DO NOT BRING YOUR CAR THERE!!!^.
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X ELEVENTYBILLION
[quote=“01AudiS4,post:7,topic:28834"”]
I’m not going to get into it. I got screwed by Chris bad. All of his employee’s that worked there at the time my car was there told me, all Chris did was dick me around and BS me. My car was there all of last summer and nothing got done until I did it myself. And there are many people that can attest to that. All he does is lie and manipulate people, I would hate to see it happen to another good person.
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well you should get into it because then everyone would know the whole story and not just your side of it.
you claimed blown turbos as part of an insurance claim, which i am sure you can admit to as being a fraud since the car was chipped along with the fact you had a major boost leak. you then asked chris to HIDE this fact and risk him getting his business investigated.
then you decided to upgrade turbos through the insurance claim. i know dif companes have dif policies on this…but lets keep it simple and assume that your insurance company is allowing you to replace stock parts with what is considered a upgraded part. you did this THROUGH chris’s shop because you
A. didnt have the cash to do it on your own
B. couldnt do the work yourself
C. wanted to retain the aftermarket warranty to have future work covered under your policy.
not to mention the fact that you admitted to me you planned on making more claims on parts that will take a great deal more abuse due to modifications you had planned and wanted warranty to pay for it instead of planning ahead and not letting those parts break. not that i blame you for trying to save money but it adds perspective into how you view your plans in relation to how you expect things to be taken care of.
here is where you are prolly going to say that this is where chris dicked you around. i dont blame you for feeling that way, god knows i wasnt a priority when my car was there. BUT do you really expect your car to be his priority?
here is what chris had to deal with and maybe you can gain some appreciation once you can see it through his eyes:
CHRIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PAID FOR ANY LABOR, PARTS, TIME HE WOULD PUT INTO THAT CAR UNTIL THE INSURANCE COMPANY FINISHED ITS CLAIM AND DETERMINED YOU WERE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
this is important because the whole time you wanted him to buy parts, or start work on the car it would be money out of his pocket. money that you admitted to him AND me that you could not afford.
chris runs a business. his business is not charity.
chris ordered the parts from a list of companies you gave him. the parts you wanted are not “in stock” parts. ko4 turbos have been hard to come by for 2 years since borgwarner announced it wasnt producing its kkk line in k04 or k03/k04 trim.
you gave chris a budget to order these parts based off of what you could afford and the research you did as to what the parts cost. chris called and ordered the parts when the insurance claim was approved and they were not in stock. he was put on a list where according to first come first served he would recieve parts. this might be hard for you to agree with because you think chris was out to delay your enjoyment with your car for as long as possible :bloated: . what reason would he have to not order your parts, not work on the car, steer you in any direction besides trying to make you happy?
what most likely happened to your parts is they were sold to another person who needed them right away and paid another 200.00 for that luxury. it happens all the time and i dont blame tuners for doing it. chris was the middle man in this and ultimately you had to suffer, but it is in no way his fault or his doing…i will repeat: he has no reason to do anything but make you happy. not to mention your car being there sans motor and requiring that it be kept inside (also for your consideration) he had to push the car in and out of his shop EVERYDAY. the longer it was there the bigger pita it was to him.
lets re-cap and hopefully you will agree that what i am saying is un-biased and fair. after all, i did already state that chris didnt prioritize my car so i know how it feels to be put on a back burner. i am giving you the benefit of the doubt about your feelings of being dicked around. but you have to understand his perspective. he worked with what he had to get your car ready. the quickest way to fix an s4 of blown turbos, with no money up-front, sourcing already hard to come by (european only) parts is NOT through a warranty claim. add in the fact that he put his shops integrity on the line by going along with a fraud insurance claim. then to add insult to injury you claim that his shop fubared your transmission somehow.
since you are a “do it yourselfer” you can prolly deduce that the trans had NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY WORK HE DID ON YOUR CAR. the trans was dropped with the motor and was not taken apart or touched in any way. mistakes happen and i will give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe something happened while it was under his watch. he gave you this same courtesy and offered to troubleshoot it for you and did so without charging you. from what you told me and from what i understand from him is that you never brought it back to him afterward because you decided you were going to fix it yourself. but if you are honest you have to admit that the most likely cause of your trans problems was the fact that as soon as you got the car back, in a modified state that i warned you would create too much tq for an auto s4 trans, you went out racing and beating on it. THEN when you saw signs of it failing, you didnt stop driving the car to prevent further damage or try and get a diagnstic tool (also reccomended by me since you were modifying the car past what the stock ecu, even in chipped form, is prepared to see and compensate accordingly) hooked up and determine exactly what you were dealing with.
in my opinion, in both cases the damage/unhappyness was caused by your own impatience and reluctancy to do things the right way.
at your service car care is a stand up shop. chris caito is a audi master tech. he knows a great deal of info about all audi models off the top of his head and has the access to the anything else. the same access the local audi delaership/techs have.
i trust chris and the techs at “at your service” to take care of my s4, my fathers tt, sl benz, jaguar x-type, 2 of my uncles a6’s and one of their a4’s. my mothers benz is serviced there. i have numerous friends who take their car there. great northern motorsports has their race subaru, service truck, and private vehicles serviced there. in every single case i have just listed, every single recomendation i made to people to bring there car there…including you since afaik i reffered you there…you are THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS EVER HAD A PROBLEM with service. although i can admit that chris has recieved complaints about how long a car has taken to be serviced. this is to be expected when people drive as far as east aurora to get an inspection and oil change from him. this reputation carries with it a curse of being extremely busy, but only to the point it takes a few extra days at MOST to get what needs to eb done accomplished.
i look forward to your reply to see if there is anything i left out or something you feel i embelished or was unfair about can be claimed
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Oh SNAP.jpg
Geez I guess joe has a strong opinion on this
FWIW, I drive past At Your Service every day, and every day, there are a ton of cars there…
They must be doing something right…
athol motor car in south buffalo on reading street, pm me if you ever need work done ill get it done cheaper fror u
[quote=“audios,post:2,topic:28834"”]
at your service car care
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other might be able to help you but this is IMO.
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
you had a major boost leak. you then asked chris to HIDE this fact and risk him getting his business investigated.
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False. I never ever had a boost leak. And the turbos were bad. And I had no idea it had a chip until far after this.
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
B. couldnt do the work yourself
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Also False. I am more that capable of replacing them myself. The only reason it was done through a shop was because of the warranty.
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
CHRIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PAID FOR ANY LABOR, PARTS, TIME HE WOULD PUT INTO THAT CAR UNTIL THE INSURANCE COMPANY FINISHED ITS CLAIM AND DETERMINED YOU WERE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
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But if this was important why did he wait 3 weeks to call the warranty company and file a claim??? Why would he wait to get them to approve the claim by never calling them? I had to call the warranty company myself to find this out, because everyday for 3 weeks he lied to me and told me he was talking to them everyday and had already sent out an adjuster. But he never called himself to make a claim at all. He just kept on telling me he did.
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
chris ordered the parts from a list of companies you gave him. the parts you wanted are not “in stock” parts.
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Chris never ordered them. He told me that he had YOU order them for him. And after another 3 weeks (now 6 weeks in) of waiting I PM’ed you asking where they were and you said you knew nothing about him ordering turbos and that you would then “call you your guy and find out”. And then I found out that Chris never ordered them, and that is when I went out and found a list of places that sold K04’s and gave him the list. I then waited 2 days for him to get back to me and he didn’t until i called and he said they were all out of stock. So then I called the same companies I asked him to call, and 2 of the 5 said that they did have them and could ship them out ASAP. Why did Chris tell me none of the companies had them??? I had to 3 way Chris into the conversation unknowingly to get him to talk to them to order them.
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
since you are a “do it yourselfer” you can prolly deduce that the trans had NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY WORK HE DID ON YOUR CAR.
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After I put the new transmission in I did find that a sensor had failed due to corrosion which was NOT Chris’s fault. But he did tell me he would fix it for me. So I do not blame him for the sensor failing. I blame him for repeatedly telling me he would fix it, then telling me a day and time to come in, and when I go there on said days he is out of town at a rally. Why would you tell me to drive all the way out there if you knew you wouldn’t be there?
I would have done it myself or had someone else do it if he would have just said he wasn’t going to do it. Also he told me he ordered the sensor and it would be in on X day. And when I would show up on those days, again he is not there. Then I went to Shmitts to get the part myself for myself and they tell me nobody ever ordered one.
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
from what i understand from him is that you never brought it back to him afterward because you decided you were going to fix it yourself.
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False (Read above)
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
chris caito is a audi master tech. he knows a great deal of info about all audi models off the top of his head …
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I will give him that.
[quote=“audios,post:25,topic:28834"”]
… i reffered you there…you are THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS EVER HAD A PROBLEM with service…
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False, I saw you a Taffy’s and told you that was where I was bringing my S4, and you just told me it was a good decision. You did not refer me, and I know plenty of unhappy customers he has had.
In the end I would not recommend his shop to anyone because of his lies and deceit. He can not be trusted and has a bad history to go with it.
[quote=“01AudiS4,post:7,topic:28834"”]
All he does is lie and manipulate people, I would hate to see it happen to another good person.
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Truth.
I wouldn’t trust him with my lawnmower.
[quote=“JustinH,post:17,topic:28834"”]
there is a place on military in kenmore. Think its called import car something. They are a pretty decent dub shop. Did work on my a2 jetta, and had a bunch of audis in for service.
They always did good work, but the price was not cheap, you get what you pay for I beleive.
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Ken-Ton Import Car Care Center. It’s on Military and Woodward, just south of Sheridan. I took my Jetta there to get tires swapped and an inspection, which they did no problem. He also mentioned that I have a slight bit of play in a wheel bearing that I should keep an eye on and maybe get fixed in 6 months. Holy shit what a nice contrast that is to “ZOMG something might possibly be a little bit out of spec soon pay me eleventy billion dollars to replace it and everything near it!” Which is what I got when I foolishly took my fiance’s car to a Monroe for a tire swap and oil change just because it was in walking distance. Her summer tires are getting thin and her brakes are on their way to eating themselves again. Fair enough, but they wanted her to spend over $200 bucks per corner on tires to put Eagle RS-A’s on her DD. I burst out laughing when I picked up her car. “Total of declined parts: $1800 dollars.” :lol: There are a million repair shops in Buffalo. Add Monroe to the list of ones I will not return to. :tup: I will be going to KenTon Imports.
/On topic. Now back to your regularly scheduled Audi drama.
At your service Car Care took care of my cars a few times. :tup:
From previous posts 01AudiS4 allways sounded like he cried a lot when he was a baby, but when AWDrifter says something I don’t feel the same, so perhaps he’d like to elaborate.
x…
^ I would like to but, I am debating whether it is a good idea to do on a public forum or not.
I have some stories from people that I am not sure they want them posted on here.
[quote=“AWDrifter,post:36,topic:28834"”]
^ I would like to but, I am debating whether it is a good idea to do on a public forum or not.
I have some stories from people that I am not sure they want them posted on here.
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Fair enough, however the “heard it from a friend who, hear it from another” shit only holds value to whoever has the royalties on the song with those lyrics in my book.
X…
[quote=“01AudiS4,post:32,topic:28834"”]
False. I never ever had a boost leak. And the turbos were bad. And I had no idea it had a chip until far after this.
Also False. I am more that capable of replacing them myself. The only reason it was done through a shop was because of the warranty.
But if this was important why did he wait 3 weeks to call the warranty company and file a claim??? Why would he wait to get them to approve the claim by never calling them? I had to call the warranty company myself to find this out, because everyday for 3 weeks he lied to me and told me he was talking to them everyday and had already sent out an adjuster. But he never called himself to make a claim at all. He just kept on telling me he did.
Chris never ordered them. He told me that he had YOU order them for him. And after another 3 weeks (now 6 weeks in) of waiting I PM’ed you asking where they were and you said you knew nothing about him ordering turbos and that you would then “call you your guy and find out”. And then I found out that Chris never ordered them, and that is when I went out and found a list of places that sold K04’s and gave him the list. I then waited 2 days for him to get back to me and he didn’t until i called and he said they were all out of stock. So then I called the same companies I asked him to call, and 2 of the 5 said that they did have them and could ship them out ASAP. Why did Chris tell me none of the companies had them??? I had to 3 way Chris into the conversation unknowingly to get him to talk to them to order them.
After I put the new transmission in I did find that a sensor had failed due to corrosion which was NOT Chris’s fault. But he did tell me he would fix it for me. So I do not blame him for the sensor failing. I blame him for repeatedly telling me he would fix it, then telling me a day and time to come in, and when I go there on said days he is out of town at a rally. Why would you tell me to drive all the way out there if you knew you wouldn’t be there?
I would have done it myself or had someone else do it if he would have just said he wasn’t going to do it. Also he told me he ordered the sensor and it would be in on X day. And when I would show up on those days, again he is not there. Then I went to Shmitts to get the part myself for myself and they tell me nobody ever ordered one.
False (Read above)
I will give him that.
False, I saw you a Taffy’s and told you that was where I was bringing my S4, and you just told me it was a good decision. You did not refer me, and I know plenty of unhappy customers he has had.
In the end I would not recommend his shop to anyone because of his lies and deceit. He can not be trusted and has a bad history to go with it.
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sorry for the long quote, i dont know how to do it the fancy way 
you told me when your car went in that you were boosting 12 psi. at least thats what i recall. either way it was neither a stock boost, nor any reputable tuners requested. iirc you found a giac chip. this means you were requesting 1 bar and you were reading less. boost leak
time frame for insurance is skewed. it was less than a week your car was at his shop and he was talking to your insurance company over the phone. i was there and heard the convo and had to listen to him bitch about what a pita it was. i dont know why he would lie to you about it nor do i know why you would call him everyday for him to have to explain it. i was there when he was on the phone once so thats all i can attest to.
which is why i still dont think he was dicking you around. he had no reason to. he doesnt like keeping expensive cars there, he doesnt like moving them in and out under any power but their own. he didnt make any money by keeping the car there so again if you lok at it from his perspective, he wants it done quicker thus making your claim that he was doing it to BS you hard to believe. but hey, i know it took a while and i know there was alot of people involved, and i wont call you a liar when it comes to what you went through with insurance and chris, i just felt it was fair to have the whole story told.
i remember your PM and i am just as confused now as i was then. i dont know why i would order them for you or for him. i wouldnt want to be responsible for that. all i remember about anything having to do with your turbos is that he asked me if certain places were any good and as far as i knew the list of places he asked me about was one you gave him. i hope you dont think i am in any way responsible for your delays. i went through more than one long delay with my car in the past and wouldnt wish it on anyone nor try to inflict it.
as far as places saying they are in stock…well there are places that do it. dont know why but i agree it is shady practice
thank you for being honest about the sensor. i figured thats what it was and even talked to pat about it at the shop. :tup: to being honest and admitting AYSCC wasnt responsible although the corrosion could be from the snesor not being connected and the motor sitting out, but i doubt it would be bad enough to cause major problems.
i am sorry to hear he dicked you around when he said he would fix it for you. i am all too familiar with chris saying he will be at the shop and then not be there. this is why it is easier to make an appointment and schedule it to be worked on at his convenience instead of asking to drop by. i think this goes for many busy places, which is no excuse, but it is always better to schedule than to just “drop by”
you are right about me not reccomending them. sorry about that, i recall now the convo at taffys
you are more than entitled to not reccomend his shop. if you feel you have been lied/decieved you are entitled to that, and entitled to steer people clear, but i thought it was only fair to post the reasoning and maybe thought you would agree that in your situation it wasnt ALL chris’s fault, where i can very well admit some of your troubles were his fault.
sorry for the audi drama
[quote=“AWDrifter,post:36,topic:28834"”]
^ I would like to but, I am debating whether it is a good idea to do on a public forum or not.
I have some stories from people that I am not sure they want them posted on here.
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Yeah, no more drama.
Take your stuff to jason.
It will be done right and at a good price, always.
Sidenote - AWDrifter The audi is running like a champ and is being kept clean. Loveit.
[quote=“BikerFry,post:34,topic:28834"”]
Ken-Ton Import Car Care Center. It’s on Military and Woodward, just south of Sheridan. I took my Jetta .
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:tup: Excelllent work at that shop. They are also VERY GOOD with RX-7s there.