Anybody want to save money on their Utility Bills?

Thanks for posting this info Josh!

Guys, my company (Fluent Energy) actually manages the Energy Cooperative of New York and I provided Josh with this info. What’s nice is the fact that they are a not for profit, so they just pass their costs directly on to the consumer. They have been operating since 1997, and I have been involved with the whole energy business since 1996.

Every other energy service provider out there is a for-profit, with residential customers having high margins built in.

Once you sign up, you should receive a letter from the utility within 7-10 business days.

It might take a little while on the phone, but call and ask for a manager and see what your balance is (usage vs. Paid) and see how badly they are raping you… Balanced/budget billing is not a good idea.

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Decided to give it a try after searching around and not finding anything negative online about it.

I’ve been on balanced for 10 years and with the new increases I’ve wondered if they are on the up n’ up. Any other suggestions on what exact questions I should ask? I thought they were taking actual usage into consideration, not arbitrary figures. ???

there are tons of providers…

I picked http://www.noco.com/ back in January, I think.

it’s really annoying… you have to call all around to see who has the best rates or just guess blindly. It’s so hard to to an apples to apples comparison.

the cliffs are that you are better off with anybody other than your base provider and beyond that they are all pretty close (well maybe not the green choices)

This looks like something that requires some reading and attention. I’ll save it for later.

Some dude knocked on my door the other day and wanted to “lock in” my gas for something like 1.20 per whatever unit they use, for 5 years, and I didn’t even get into the elect with him. I had to sign a contract with a $300 buyout, wtf, and I looked at my bills and hadn’t payed anywhere near that much for gas for a while, so I told him to gtfo…

US Energy Savings was their company…

Is this similar?

No, that is a For Profit company, making money off your utilities.

You might end up paying more than regular “retail” rate that your utility provides.

Most of those places are scams.

I have been with ECNY for over a year, they are a NOT FOR PROFIT company, and they are great to work with.

I was looking at josh’s worksheet that he attached, I live in a little different area than him, we ended up saving a little more than he did.

Pretty much all winter long it was 25-30 percent off the supply portion of my gas bill.

We were under $200 per month to heat a 1500 sq foot lower of my double home.

Right now with the heat being off, we are at 40 bucks a month, and I have all gas appliances.

I signed up for ECNY’s electric service also, and the savings has been negligible, but the gas is really worth it.

Support this non for profit, so they can get better deals for all of us.

Its like an energy co-op.

Again NOCO is a for profit company. They will not give you as good of a deal as ECNY will. They are in it to make money, not serve their members.

If you wanted to do a little research about other marketer rates, it is very difficult to call them up to find out what they would have charged you. ECNY lists their monthly rates directly on their website, which as far as I know, no other marketer does. The reason they do this is simple, they are a not-for-profit, and have nothing to lose by listing their prices. They want to be as transparent as possible on their rates so consumers can make the best choice for themselves.

You can also go the NYS Public Service Commissions (NYS PSC) website and compare gas rates between marketers. ECNY is always either the lowest price, or in the top few.

Here is the PSC link to compare prices.

Put in your zip, select gas, and then you can sort by price. The PSC updates these numbers around the 5th business day of the month.

Hi Pete …

ECNY doesn’t appear to offer residential natural gas for RG&E people, so I switched that portion over to NOCO, and switched my electric over to ECNY.

good stuff, I need to sort mine out, but commercial + multi-unit building = huge PITA

it’s a false truth to claim that simply being a non-profit means a better price. non-profits are normally smaller and don’t have a good bargaining position.

i am bumping this for all the new home owners that may have missed this thread…after all winter is coming up…

i just enrolled myself for gas/elec

Thanks for the bump, just enrolled in the electric for my apartment. My heat is already included in the rent.

How does this work if you have budget billing set up? Will I have to pay the balance to National Fuel before switching over, or does the balance transfer to the new company? Also, does company offer budget billing?

enrolled in both, thanks!

enrolled in the gas, but kept my electric the same. I don’t feel like getting 2 electric bills.

i never got 2 electric bills when i used this at my apt…