Are Americans losing touch with DIY skills?

The assertation of the article that people call others to change a tire because they don’t know how is bullshit, its because we can. i can clean puke up off my bathroom floor, but you better believe if they had a service that came out and did that while i stood around, I’d take advantage of it.

EDIT: How hard was DIY’ing laminate flooring?

[quote=“JayS,post:20,topic:35595"”]

I think the rifle one belongs on there. How many of our dads could do it? What about their dads? And I can’t think of a single state where a basic bolt action .22 isn’t legal.

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Again it’s got to be environment. My dad never used a gun or rifle in his life. Neither did his dad (or my mom, or her dad). Where my parents grew up almost nobody had guns. I mean nobody. Except the police or military. You’ve got to remember not everyone that lives in this country was born here. A good amount of the population immigrated, and there are quite a few cultures that don’t really have much to do with weapons. Most don’t get exposed to that kind of thing until they come to the United States. Even with simple .22s being legal, how many people do you think have the money to go through the hoops to get a gun licence and then actually buy one of these rifles. It ain’t cheap, especially if you’re in a major metropolis.

That being said, I know quite a few people that I grew up with that couldn’t clean a bolt action rifle. But they were very proficient with cleaning and using other types of weapons. So it’s all relative to your environment.

[quote=“JayS,post:20,topic:35595"”]

And there is definitely a link between being able to solve mechanical problems like making a car powered sump pump from an old float switch, an AC inverter and an old pool pump (something I did for a neighbor during the storm) and being able to visualize building a solution to a problem in code.

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This is true for more than just code. It’s basic problem solving. You can apply it to anything.

[quote=“JayS,post:20,topic:35595"”]

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Then there’s the monetary advantage. My old neighbors across the street asked how I can afford all the toys I have. Well, lets see…
Since we bought our house over 5 years ago I have had exactly 2 professionals come here to do work…

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This is also the same for me. The only reason I can afford the few toys I have is because I take the initiative to learn how to fix and do things myself.

22 out of 25. I think my dad really wanted a son…

[quote=“sedlmeier101,post:13,topic:35595"”]

You guys think you’ve done easy things…

Working at toyota…I had to drive to lancaster with a screwdriver to switch plates from one car to another. the cars were sitting in the driveway next to each other.
The people were too lazy or did not know how to change a set of liscense plates.:loopie:

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can i assume you work at northtown. i had to do all sorts of stupid shit when i worked there.

[quote=“Rx3,post:22,topic:35595"”]

snip… all the gun stuff… /snip

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I think you’re confusing the laws for handguns and rifles. I can go to Gander Mountain tomorrow, with no license what so ever, and buy a shotgun, a scoped rifle and all the ammo that I can fit in my car perfectly legally.
http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm

You are right about it being location biased though. I grew up in a very rural area where police response times could be in the tens of minutes, not the sub one minute we have here in most of WNY. So between the abundance of hunters and people who kept guns for simple home protection is was very common to have training with firearms.

Really though, I think all upstanding citizens should be armed and know how to use and properly maintain a weapon. To me my 12 guage and SKS are just as important parts of my disaster kit as the canned food, water purification tablets, generator, candles or batteries. In any long term disaster those police that people have come to rely too much on won’t be coming to help you quickly, if they come at all. When things get really bad there is nothing more dangerous than a town full of humans who suddenly find themselves having to fend for themselves.

But, maybe it’s better of all of these urban and suburbanities don’t believe in guns. When some major disaster hits and my family runs out of food we’ll just start taking it from all our unarmed neighbors. :lol:

While I’ve never actually done 3, I could do 25/25. And I am certified to perform CPR. Faggots.

[quote=“ly555is,post:5,topic:35595"”]

capsized boaters can go fuck themselves

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LOL.

i can do/have done 23/25 on the list.

21

24/25 I can’t do number 14. What is a skid anyway…? Is that a RWD thing? :biglol:

[quote=“bing,post:9,topic:35595"”]

and you dont get bitches knowing how to fillet a fish damnit.

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bs.

cowboys fish. that said, they must clean the fish, and we all know cowboys always get the bitches.

oh, i can and have done most of the things on the first list, that second one seems a little dumbed down

[quote=“Rx3,post:22,topic:35595"”]

Again it’s got to be environment. My dad never used a gun or rifle in his life. Neither did his dad (or my mom, or her dad). Where my parents grew up almost nobody had guns. I mean nobody. Except the police or military. You’ve got to remember not everyone that lives in this country was born here. A good amount of the population immigrated, and there are quite a few cultures that don’t really have much to do with weapons. Most don’t get exposed to that kind of thing until they come to the United States. Even with simple .22s being legal, how many people do you think have the money to go through the hoops to get a gun licence and then actually buy one of these rifles. It ain’t cheap, especially if you’re in a major metropolis.

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as addressed, shotguns are perfectly legal. i think they would sell one to my dog if i tied a note on her collar with a credit card taped to it.

you should learn to handle a gun properly. contrary to popular belief, being able to/good at something on xbox does not make you good at it in real life.
i have a funny story about a kid i know who thought that way about hockey. he ended up getting hurtin’ put on him.

i have personally seen lafengas do all of these…out of or using carbon fibre

those DIY threads of course, are on other forums

[quote=“JayS,post:25,topic:35595"”]

But, maybe it’s better of all of these urban and suburbanities don’t believe in guns. When some major disaster hits and my family runs out of food we’ll just start taking it from all our unarmed neighbors. :lol:

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:lol: Maybe I should get a shotgun now :lol: Can’t have people messin’ with my food!

We lost all of our skill to LAFENGAS.

X…

[quote=“Xander,post:33,topic:35595"”]

We lost all of our skill to LAFENGAS.

X…

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you’re not even american. so you don’t count

[quote=“JayS,post:8,topic:35595"”]

I kind of expect the numbers on here to be higher. Car enthusiasts tend to be more DIY.

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you mean, pretend to be more DIY…

there are alot of DIY’ers that should not touch tools.

i like to mix the two worlds.
google and basic handymanlyness are very powerful.

also, poverty is a great motivator.
lots of people dont bother to do things becuase its
just easier to pay an insect to do it for you.

I wanted to choke a buddy of mine who paid an electrician to fix a dead outlet. Granted my buddy’s only a fucking electrical engineer…

I’m not even going to try to list all the shit I’ve done to my home. Wiring, framing, painting, flooring, landscaping. This is my practice house. Flipping homes is my dream job, but it’s like anything else once you make it your living it loses its luster. So between that and the risk I’ll stick with corporate America.

I cruised around GI the other night. Up near the north end of the island on East River there is an old beat looking house for sale on the water. I started twitching at the thought of getting a beat house on the water and fixing it up.

the part they never show on those flipping shows, is the take home pay.

sure, you made 100k on that flip.
thats before income taxes, and buyer demands, legal fees…

it still amazes me that people are dumbfounded by the idea of running a new outlet, or…(gulp) putting in a 3 way switch.

I’ve rescued a dog from a pond… if that counts.

Gave CPR many times - 2 people had no signs of life before - only 1 person did when i was done…

Never cleaned a rifle.

I’m not a guy but I was (still are) a tomboy and I have done/can do 24/25.
Never saved someone from a capsized boat…but I was thrown over once and saved myself!!! Does that count??

And I am CPR certified.

[quote=“Joe,post:21,topic:35595"”]

EDIT: How hard was DIY’ing laminate flooring?

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Really pretty easy and it came out perfect. I took the time to remove all the baseboard molding so I could trim about 1/4" off the bottom and let the flooring float under it. This way you get 0 gap and don’t have to use quarter round. The majority of laminate floors are what they call “floating floors”, aka they’re not nailed down at all just locked together. Because of this you need to leave a gap all around it to allow for expansion when it heats/cools.

The instructions say to cover this gap with quarter round but I was always taught that was the method of shitty carpenters to cover up their poor craftsmanship. It ended up being a weekend project to do our medium sized dining room from start to finish. That includes pulling up the old carpet/pad, removing, reworking, and reinstalling all molding, installing new boundries at the living room, kitchen and patio door entrances and installing the actual floor. My wife is pretty unhandy so it was basically me doing the entire thing myself. With a better helper it would have been a one day project.