Are you Democrat, Republican, or Southerner?

[bics56]

This thread is anus turds…started as a joke now all utter gayness has emerged…as all threads on politics (sort of like a sports thread that Cutty post in)…politics plain and simple is all bullshit…all are crooks…and the middle class man get pissed on no matter what.

[tom_vito]

@bics56

This thread is anus turds…started as a joke now all utter gayness has emerged…as all threads on politics (sort of like a sports thread that Cutty post in)…politics plain and simple is all bullshit…all are crooks…and the middle class man get pissed on no matter what.

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[JackdUp]

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[Pewter]

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[Quik83Z]

@bics56

This thread is anus turds…started as a joke now all utter gayness has emerged…as all threads on politics (sort of like a sports thread that Cutty post in)…politics plain and simple is all bullshit…all are crooks…and the middle class man get pissed on no matter what.

I’m not gonna dispute your final conclusion, because it sure seems like it to me as well.

But ya can’t just say it’s all bullshit and bend over and take whatever they give you. We have to try anyway, as much as I think old Bushey is totally wrong on many issues (immigration, Iraq, foreign policy, etc.), I absolutely love the tax cuts he passed and the fact that our economy is running pretty well at the moment. That was actual ca$h in my pocket. So even though I didn’t get what I wanted on most issues, at least I got something for my vote.

@beat90tsi

And there we have the problem folks…

Not only do you understand the political machine called liberalism and oppose it, but you understand the solution.

HOWEVER…you think, that supporting a “loser” is not a good solution, so you don’t support the Libertarian party, and it continues to be a loser because people like you won’t change their party affiliation to coincide with their conscience. The Libertarians are the party you want, but you somehow think some “new” party will have a better chance?

Don’t abandon the party that embodies your beliefs just because they won’t put a candidate in the White House this year.

If there was actually a way to accomplish this, I would be right there. It’s tough to cast a vote for a third party candidate when you know they have no chance of winning. I would feel like I am just throwing my vote away. I will probably just suck it up and vote for the “lesser of two evils” just like last time.

[beat90tsi]

@Quik83Z

I will probably just suck it up and vote for the “lesser of two evils” just like last time.

And you still can’t figure out why we have a crooked 2 party system.

If you had 20 dollars and you had to give it to Stalin, Mussolini, or burn it, what would you do?

[tom_vito]

Give it to Stalin…

[Darkstar]

@beat90tsi"

And you still can’t figure out why we have a crooked 2 party system.

If you had 20 dollars and you had to give it to Stalin, Mussolini, or burn it, what would you do?

thats actually a really cool analogy. I totally agree with you and have argued many people till they were blue in the face about how a vote for a 3rd party is far from a wasted vote.

[Darkstar]

@Quik83Z

But ya can’t just say it’s all bullshit and bend over and take whatever they give you. We have to try anyway, as much as I think old Bushey is totally wrong on many issues (immigration, Iraq, foreign policy, etc.), I absolutely love the tax cuts he passed and the fact that our economy is running pretty well at the moment. That was actual ca$h in my pocket. So even though I didn’t get what I wanted on most issues, at least I got something for my vote.

just the war in iraq costs every man woman and child in the US $1,400. That number would probably be about doubled if you just factor in taxpayers. So was that $300 check really worth it?

[beat90tsi]

@Darkstar

just the war in iraq costs every man woman and child in the US $1,400.

Over how many years?

@Darkstar

That number would probably be about doubled if you just factor in taxpayers. So was that $300 check really worth it?

I’m not defending his pro Israel conspiracy, but are you trying to say we would have spent zero in Iraq if it wasn’t for Bush?

Are you also admitting that we have an assload of freeloaders here in the U.S.?

[ShalerPunk]

we need more than two parties. hell, i think we need more than three. and presidential election by popular vote.

/discussion

[JackdUp]

We have at least 10 people I’ve talked to on here that would lean Libertarian. There’s probably more lurking.

Think about that.

[Quik83Z]

To jump-start a third party, I think we would have to see a major candidate lose in the primary and then run as a third party candidate. Ross Perot did it in 1992 and received 18.9% of the popular vote (but no electoral votes). Although he did better than any previous third party candidate, some folks believe that this was the reason Clinton won the election.

IMO, I don’t think a third party candidate can gain enough traction with only grass-roots support to actually make a showing.

If a third-party candidate emerged with a conservative, common sense, platform and enough popular support to provide some hope of actually winning, I would definitely vote for him/her.

[fshowcars]

@JackdUp

We have at least 10 people I’ve talked to on here that would lean Libertarian. There’s probably more lurking.

Think about that.

you also have people that others assume are republican or democrat… assumptions != reality somtimes!

[JackdUp]

I remember reading somwhere that having Libertarian on your voter registration card equals increasing “campaign funds” availability for the party. Some break over number of registered voters == more funding for campaigns, etc.

So, if you register for a particular party, you increase the power base of of that party not only in words but in money.