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NYSpeed Automotive
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Ok so the guy showed up this morning with the car in question here-

http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48859

My first impression, the car looks ok, theres a nice 3 inch recessed gouge in the passangers rocker which he had told me was a minor 1 inch ding and a 8 inch gouge in the lower door which wasnt mentioned and the front drivers side fender was bowed out about 3 inches (common on these cars but the fender attatching point was broke off underneath the car)

Anyways, he gets the car off the trailer and starts it up, sounds good the idle is a little rough, I sit in it and the SES light is on …

I had asked him twice in the last two days if it has any SES or has any stored codes he told me “no light, no codes”

So at this point I am looking around the car, the hatch release button is gone and theres a toggle switch in its place, shifter is off of a early 90s Firebird and dosent shift out of park well, drivers window shakes badly while going down, passangers goes down uber unnaturally fast but goes up unnaturally slow

at this point I am getting turned off fast so I ask him if its ok to take it for a test drive which he says that it is

So I go up the street and upon going 2/3 throttle it starts banging off the rev limiter like no tomorrow, car is almost stalling at 30mph, needing to feather the gas, smells pig rich ect ect

He told me it had a tune and was driveable but needs fine tuning

yeah right

Upon getting back from my test drive he admits its running on a stock tune with stock shift points

Now he starts telling me how easy it is to turn off the SES and adjust the shift points ect

I tell him if its so easy and he owns a Ls1 performance shop why hasnt he done it…to which he says nothing except “dude you knew what the deal was”

also I notice the “Airbag” light has not shut off on the dash and start questioning that

he states that “I think the passangers has been removed”

Nothing was mentioned in the ad

also looking at the car it appears to have been repainted (not mentioned in the ad) he admitted he thought it had been resprayed once (also the floor boards underneath the car were black)

the car was missing a bunch of odds and ends not mentioned also and the tires had maybe 20% tread on the backs

So at this point he is pushing me to buy it and I am saying no way, maybe for 4-5k but not 8k

he gets pissed starts yelling about how he wasted his day and his time and his gas ect ect

I told him had he just been upfront we could have avoided all of this

So hes screaming how people on Ls1tech would tear me up for this and yadda yadda yadda

I am telling him I will give him gas money for his time and trip (if I had gone out to his house to look at it , it would have cost me $$$ so I was trying to be fair)

At this point hes loading the car back on the trailer and screaming, I swear if I wasnt 6 inches taller and 75 pounds heavier than him, he would have attacked me

I told him again I was sincerely sorry and that I didnt even “owe” him gas money but I felt it was fair, however if he didnt mellow out he wasnt getting shit

So he mellowed out some, I gave him $250 for his time and gas and he went on his merry way

honestly though all could have been avoided by telling me it had a SES on, it didnt even have a base tune for the cam, the airbags were missing, it had been repainted ect ect

So lesson learned I guess the next one I will travel to

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You should buy Brent’s RX7 :tup:

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why 250 dollars? how far did this idiot come?

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omg sounds like a basket case… I wouldn’t have given him sh*t. Good luck finding another one…

if you’re still looking in a couple months my 98 Z might be for sale.

Edit: my car’s a 6speed and almost stock-> not what you’re looking for I guess, nevermind

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I am not suprised.

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You’re way nicer than I am. Good call on backing out though. Sounds sketchy.

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+1

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What performance shop?

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He came out from Florida NY (about 6 hours away) and just had a big Ford truck and a trailer

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I figured if I had gone out there I would have to had taken the day off from work= $100+, roughly 600 miles divided by the 22 miles my Crown Vic would average to go out there= 27.5 gallons of gas @ 3.53 a gallon= roughly $95 plus having to drive 10-12 hours…

Maybe I am “too nice” but like I said I was trying to be fair

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Damn. Sucks to hear, but sounds like it was too good to be true after all.

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I should mention the reason I trusted this guy was he has 25 feebacks on Ls1tech, all 100% positive, in a FS thread for the car a potential buyer had checked it out but passed on it and stated the car was everything the seller said and he was an honest guy and lastly East side vouched for the car as well…

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ok, makes sense.

guy sounds like a real tool. that sounds like quite a bit of undisclosed info he conveniently left out of the description.

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You should tell eastside to stop putting petting teir reputation behind a half assed car. Also i would probably tell the seller either to come clean in his post so he dosen’t wast more of his and other peoples time. Or just contact the mods.

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I am curious to see if when he gets home he jumps on me on the forum or not…
Personally if he dosent say anything I am inclined to let it go, I really dont need or want the ensuing drama on Ls1tech

if he jumps on me first then yeah, I have all his PMs saved and what not

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Well if the guy is going to be an asshole when someone dosen’t buy the car that he is not disclosing all of the issues with people should know. Im not saying blow up spots in the FS thread but pm or e-mail him saying to make it more clear of the problems to avoid wasting more of his and others time.

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damn…shitty dicks…i would have been pissed too if that happend…when i picked the car up from you tim the SES light came on later that night but i scanned it and its because of the new gears in the rear end (3.73’s to 3.23’s) and all it needs is to be reset on a tune…but yea that sucks about that dude bein a sketch ball…i would def blow his post up and be like yea i looked at this car, its not even close to whats been said on here…the car sucks and so does the owner lol

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He must be desperate for a buyer. Why else would he bring it all that way. I would have told him not to even unload the P.O.S. off the trailer. Glad you didn’t buy it off ebay without seeing it. Feedback means little. It’s simple to set up sham sales to friends and have them post positive feedback. Good for you to send that A-hole packing, F-him!

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I totally agree. They are a pretty reputable shop and do a lot of business with a lot of local guys down by me. They have built some nice cars. This doesn’t seem like on of them though. Seems like this guy was just trying to unload his problems on someone else.

The tech guys can get pretty hairy with these kind of situations. Hope nothing gets out of hand.

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damn man, sorry, I did not know gears would throw the SES
Justin drove it last fall some with the 3.23s, I test drove it, he drove it out to my house (about 40 miles) and I drove it some around here

I am really suprised it took that long to pop on

A hypertech (garbage) handheld for $75 used will correct that if you dont want to spend more on a tune

But yeah I am just going to chalk it up to “not meant to be”

I am thinking about this car even though its M6-