Agreed. I was all for getting a 5 or 6 spd when I bought my car, but since my wife doesn’t drive stick and I didn’t want to ahve to deal with teaching her how (she has no interest in it) I got an auto and I am glad I did. Sitting in 1 hour of traffic to go from downtown to BP (about 10 miles) is torture enough as it is. I can’t imagine doing it with a stick. I will get a manual when I get a fun weekend/project type of car, definitely not for my DD.