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Exactly my thought. Are they hurting THAT bad that they can’t sacrifice 10 seconds to help someone who served our country? That’s crap.
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maybe they should give them to doctors and nurses too, since you know, they actually help people.
Dont confuse a war being pointless with the men and women giving great sacrifice to serve please. It is quite disrespectful.
you could argue that if they didnt serve then there wouldnt be a pointless war going on.
does it matter if I am?
Then we would have no military and would be a big gaping vagina for another world to come and fuck?
they probably wouldnt if there wasnt so much american dick waving going on.
the point of an army should be for defence, not to have an invading force.
OT war babble moved to it’s own thread.
at least it’s not me this time… weeeeeee…
breaker, you gonna have to step your game up if you’re gonna take these dudes on. you’re dealing with some actual US military dudes here.
not even going to begin to debate the level of suck detected, breaker are you from the great white north?
wars, pointless or not, still have casualties. I’d readily support any individual who has sacrificed themselves in conflict. I got a buddy who was in Afghanistan for 14 months, he made it back alive but he is still a much different person then when he left.
I’m Canadian to, but you gotta pay respects where they are due, doesn’t matter what nation your from or apart of.
wow i didnt even realize this got moved onto another forum.
and no i dont have to pay respect for any americans fighting wars against a county using sticks and rocks against m16 equiped soldiers with years of training. most of the wars that take place are a fucking joke.
an army should be used for defense. storming into a country and wrecking their shit up in the name of peace and to force a new government in is the most retarded shit on earth. im pretty sure nazi germany did that shit too and look how that ended up.
if the us wanted to actually use its army for something other then stealing oil from defenceless people living in mud houses, they would be in darfur killing people that actually need to be stopped. opps but wait, then they couldnt sell guns to those terrorists and it would be a conflict in interest.
tlrd; americans love to kill people for their own gains and dont give a shit about how the world sees them.
So we should have no military and we get pleasure out of killing people. Yep i will deff include you to the people whos views are obv too extreme to have reasonable conversation with.
If you honestly think all americans enjoy murder you sir need therapy. I just don’t know how people can express and think in such extremes like what you stated. It really gives me the creeps.
How do you even take that breaker77 guy seriously? He obviously has never cracked so much as a newspaper much less a history book.
An example of how Canada differs so significantly… the JTF certainly gets involved in heavy combat but we never hear about it on the news. As far as we’re aware all our guys do is peace keep and train. Private contractors probably have more civilian kills than the Canadian military has combat kills in the last decade.
Because of that we make the reasonable assumption that heavy combat is not necessary since we (assume) that we’ve never engaged in it and we’re fine.
The sentiment is largely that the US brings action against itself because of your aggression towards others. A wonderful self-perpetuating military industrial complex.
Obviously it’s more complicated than that, but the other assumption is that because you’re American you are heavily subjected to the American propoanda machine (ie. Fox) and therefore are not able to develop a neutral opinion. All those newspapers and history books are there to form your opinions for you.
btw, i’m suggesting the above as the reason why breaker77 feels the way he does and why most younger Canadians, Europeans, Asians, Australians, etc. etc. share pretty much the same view… not presenting it as my opinion.
the above disclaimer is necessary so that we can keep politisucks and not have to start up yet another forum called “Bing’s a fggt socialist”
That’s definitely a miss-conception.
If anything the vast majority news sources that Americans watch are undoubtedly anti-war, so one would think we’d be less likely to support our efforts overseas and be more isolationist.
And I’ve taken several advanced history classes in my life, none of which provided me with text or lectures which pushed an imperialistic or pro-war propaganda agenda. If anything it was just the opposite. Just like media sources, most professors at schools of higher education are anti-war and anti-imperialism.
So assuming and stereotyping all Americans or American soldiers based on that makes about as much sense as us saying Canadians all like maple syrup.
And it’s contradictory to say we’re told what to think when you hold a view based on outside, incorrect perceptions. Someone most have told you that’s why we’re the way we are because you couldn’t have formed that idea from first-hand experience since you didn’t grow up as an American.
way to rebuttal, miss all the points completely and take things out of context.
i will deff include you to the people who cannot even have a conversation.
seriously, give me some reasons why your big bad american army should be in combat right now.
and bing nailed my opinion, its like hes in my brain.
Rebuttle? What you are discussing and coming at me with are topics that aren’t the issue that I was trying to discuss man. If you would listen to what I am trying to say and not just assume it isn’t what you want to hear maybe we can have a discussion. Lets first start with no crazy talk like americans want to kill people, first of all I love kittens and wish harm upon nobody. Second i just prefer conversation with people that are more rational then that. Yes I understand you weren’t serious I hope but anyhow.
I don’t think we should be in combat right now. Did you read what I wrote? This thread was moved here because I said that troops deserve respect. I think they do. TROOPS of ALL nations. I don’t care if you are a guy holding the gun trying to kill me I think your people should support your service is my point here. You just want to believe I am trying to defend the war or big bad americans or something. I am not. I never implied once that we should be in combat so I don’t know why you even go to that. Maybe it is cause I get pleasure from killing people haha.
Here’s 3000 reasons prick.
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Well, that will not promote any reasonable discussion (though I’m skeptical that one is possible), so I’ll try to address something else you said:
You said we shouldn’t be in the wars that we are, but it would be OK if we liberated Darfur. Why? Saddam committed genocide, invaded neighboring countries, and as a result had to cooperate with the UN. He stopped cooperating with UN weapons inspectors, so we said “oh hell no.” Why is helping oppressed and brutalized Africans OK but doing the same for Iraqis is not?
lol fry.
RE: respecting soldiers.
I think this goes down the same road as respecting police officers, firemen, and dare i say it… even… customs officers… yes even the ones at the US border 
But you also need to hold them to a higher standard because they are entrusted with so much authority (in some cases). And when that trust is broken, the fall should be harder even though there should defintely be some slack for the pressures (dangers) of the job. Everyone loves a good cop, everyone REALLY hates a bad cop.
It’s also important to separate the solider from the war. Always support the soldier, (almost) never support the war.
For the record, I did in fact crush a can of budweiser on my forehead while humming the national anthem since I don’t know the words as I posted that.
RE: 3000 dead on 9-11
That’s up there with Saddam… at least Saddam’s were all Kurds, so they were probably guilty of something
(^^ please note that was a joke)