But if he knew something he shoulda stayed in it. Now IOC has no contract with the Pens and the Pens have no binding to Pittsburgh anymore. He can move them to Ecuador if he wanted to.
If the Pens leave because they cant get a new arena, f them. Call me when they fill the igloo on a regular basis…plus I like the nostalgia of the ‘Civic Arena’ HAha, on a sidenote, I wonder what it will be named next now that ‘Mellon’ has shit the bed.
It’s ridiculous the team is blaming their lack of success on not having a new arena. You can’t be demanding with a losing team, regardless of the facts, we have the best up and coming superstars in the NHL, still a rollercoaster record.
GOODBYE HOCKEY!
i agree 100%. there nothing wrong with the “civic arena” other than LUXURY BOXES… luxury boxes are the reason they built Heinz. there was nothing wrong with 3 rivers for football. after the pirates moves they coulda made it a grass surface. heinz sucks, it doesn;t get loud, you can’t kick fieldgoals, its kinda ugly… the pirates needed a baseball park, grass field, etc etc… the penguins do not need a new arena, the size and surface of the playing area will not change, the only thing that changes is LUXURY BOXES… they brainwash the people (meaning the average joe) into thinking they need new place but meanwhile its really just gonna be something to benifit the already rich…
the igloo kicks ass and i would hate to not see it in our skyline. they never capitalized on the whole igloo theme, they entraces should have been igloo like. etc etc.
be rad and cutty make good points
seriously! renovate the bitch, open the fucking dome up…instant baller status that would def appeal to the younger crowd.
waaahh…there’s not enough VIP space…well, who gives when ya cant fill the rest of the fucking arena with normal joes??? :slap: Most rich people have their priorities mixed up. The question is do you make more money off VIP boxes or a boost in regular ticket sales and will you be supported by the community after burdening them with the cost of yet another new arena?
Based on your argument about the Penguins and their arena situation, I’d love to see you justify the Pirates getting a new baseball park when they regularly sell about 30% of the park on a game to game basis and haven’t made the playoffs since when? 1991? Will they ever see a pennant again?
“impossible”
seriously Pittsburghs a bunch of rich boys that want new toys aka stadiums. We got the space but…This isnt fucking NYC, the money isnt here, even in NYC (point forthcoming) how long has NY employed the Madison Square Garden?!
Its all about spirit and attitude, if you lack that, we could have the biggest greatest arena in the world but it doesn’t mean dick if you can’t fill it with the people of Pgh. Toss the whole casino mess into the mix…lets just say I wasnt expecting a good outcome from this situation.
he can’t… that’s why he can’t justify a new pen’s arena… miss the point much? :blanyer:
Fact is name a city that has a stadium, park, or arena that is over 50 years old. Have you even been to the civic arena in the last 5 years…that place is falling apart it is a shit hole. Also it is not like th e pens have not been doing awesome for ticket sales thelast 2 years. Hell yesterday it was a standing room only croud of 17 + K people. Pens are dong their job in their rebuilding stage of their franchise now it is the city’s turn to do their part and supply a new arena…just as they did for the steelers and pirates
i think the civic area i still the largest stainless steel retractible dome in the world. the dome was powered by gasoline automobile engines. they were using oldsmobile 455’s because of the tourque. they fucked up the system while making that horrible van damn movie. Fix it! open that motherfucker up for concerts inside of driving all the way out to east kabum to stupid starlake. kill the amusement tax so that it will atrract more concerts to the venue. i sat in the box at just about every venue except petersen… i like being in the crowd better.
The Boston Garden for 70 years, Madison Square Garden, since '68.
I’ve been to Mellon Arena twice this year and both times, from what I could see, it was in good condition…for real, I looked around, to see for myself what all the fuss was about.
Fact is its a bunch of bullshit…And what percentage of that arena is filled by the ‘student section’?
Pirates got a new park because we blew up 3-Rivers, built teh motha fuckin Steelers stadium, and there wasn’t anywhere for them to play.
oh do you work for the pirates? you know our sales figures? 3 out of the 6 years PNC has been open are in the top 5 of pirates all time attendance. just because you see an empty park doesn’t mean those tickets aren’t sold. also baseball is an 81 game season during the summer months… its much harder to sell out 81 games when there are so many other options. the justification for the pirates gettin a new park was three rivers was never intended for baseball alone. as a baseball park it was garbage. no matter how good the steelers are, PNC will always draw more money into the city than heinz ever can but the shear fact its used 81 times a year JUST for baseball. the Lexus club is probably used 300 times a year. don’t assume when you have no basis for ur argument.
no i got the point thanks… the comment was made because he said we didn’t deserve a new arena because the team can’t fill it… he justified why we don’t deserve a new arena, so I wanted to hear his thoughts on maybe why the Pirates needed a new arena when they fill it with about 12,000 fans and it holds 42,000…
the reason why the steelers got a place to play was because of pitt tearing down pitt stadium. the deal was the steelers would get a home with pitt. its not the steelers stadium…its the Sports and exhibition authorities stadium. the steelers went to bed with pitt and thats how the deal got done. they knew that if pitt had to share a home with them it was only way they could get the gov to go along with it. so pitt said you use our athletic complex and we play our home games in the same stadium.
Problem is Mayor Murphy fucked Pittsburgh, taxed/taxing the shit out of everybody and everything to make a ‘surplus’ after his exposed budget disaster and now nobody wants to come into town. Is Sophie Masloff still kickin, get that haggard bitch back in here, stir things up a bit. I’m glad Ravenstahl and Onorato aren’t pussies. What a bunch of political bullshit. We’re better off with no casino…let alone a casino on the north side…wooo Federal Street x11ty billion. Great.
what don’t you understand? we averaged like 25,000 a game and it only hold 39,000 not 42,000… and for a baseball to be as messed up as it is and for a crappy team like ours to average 25,000 is not too bad. 81 games and not every game is against the mets and dodgers… its hard to get people to see the brewers. the problems with the pirates are baseball’s problems not the pirates. read what i said again …PNC BRINGS MORE REVENUE THAN HEINZ…thats all the justification you need.