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The more I read about this new report the more pissed off I get. I have never voted before, but I registered strictly to vote against Bush this time and now I am glad I did. I would rather my president “flip Flop” on issues than make up false claims about a country and attack without knowing the true story.
im so not getting involved in this arguing. I dont really think that either VP canidate outshined the other, but everyone expected Cheney to trounce Edwards, which did not happen, so I guess because of that I’ll give the nod to Edwards. The thing that annoyed me about Edwards is that all his answers were like word for word repeats of what Kerry said in the first debate.
To be quite honest, I feel really bad for Cheney. I’ll be he would have been 10x the president Bush was (which aint saying much). You could tell he disagrees with the constitutional ban on gay marraige, but he couldnt say shit (literally, he didnt. That was the question he passed on). He seems so much smarter and capable than Bush. While I disagree with much of his policy, he is a man that I could actually respect being in the office, unlike Bush.
Ive been saying for months that Bush is gonna keep his lead till the debates, at which time Kerry is gonna fucking own him. 1 debate down and Bush has totally lost his lead in the polls. On O’Reily last night, all the polls were within 2%, and some even had Kerry in the lead. And the foreign policy was the one debate that Bush actually something going for him. Kerry is gonna rip the shit out of his record when we get to the domestic issue, then Kerry will take the lead and eventually win the election. All these bullshit negative ads and everything mean nothing to the voter. The debates are where the bullshit stops. The political consultants, the speechwriters, and all that pre-scripted nonsense are left behind and the politicains are one on one, thinking for themselves and replying with their own brains. Which sucks for Bush, because he is lacking one, and will therefore lose the debates and then the election.
i dont think he should be impeached, but It is obvious that he rushed this country to war, in which everyone knew there was no imminent threat, when we were already at war with another country, and there were tons of other countries that are far more dangerous to us than Iraw. Iraq could have waited, and 1000 kids are dead now. Bush can have his 4 more beers, but not 4 more years.
And im getting sick of Bush/Cheney ragging on Kerry/Edwards about voting down the 87 Billion dollar initiative to send $$ to Iraq. The reason the voted it down wasnt because they didnt care about kids having flack jackets and armor on their humvees, it was because there was all sorts of shady shit worked into the bill that SHOULDNT have been there, like Halliburtons 7 billion dollar no-bid contract. WTF is up with that shit? Just give a company that was already in hot water 7 BILLION DOLLARS, no questions asked, no opportunity for another company to do the job cheaper. And the company JUST SO HAPPENS to have been run by the VP, right up until the time of his election, and who still owns mad amts of stock in it… shady shit.
well its not only for his friends but also himself…he still gets $ from haliburtion…
also has stock options, so if he gives them then a no bid contract(which should not be allowed) that alows the companys stock to go up & his pockets to get bigger.
also…that country when from like 75th military contractor in the 90’s to somewhere in the 20 when bush started, to #1 now.
also…how do you over charge the government what was it like 100 some million and then it goes public and the government says “well they will just have to pay it back” thats B.S. if anyone of us on here over charged the government that much coin, our ass would be in jail.
I believe this is what is called TREASON!! You’re lucky its not 1900 or you’d be hanging from a tree
darkstar… i expected more from you…
BUT, how can you guys say there was no need for bush to take us to war… wtf?? on september 12th, i’d venture to say that every american was ready to go to war with anyone over what happened… it’s great to kick back and look at the past and claim what you’d do differently to make things better… but bush made a choice on that day (which i dont’ see kerry doing without the UN’s go ahead).
granted the whole haliburton thing is shady… but maybe they just wanted to push the contract through asap and just signed it… as i said before, at least he job is getting done. i agree 100% it was ‘shady’… but what in the world isn’t shady when dealing with the government?
and the fact that cheney gets money from it just tells me he’s a smart man… we all know we’re in it for $, even in our meaningless lives… cheney was a good CEO and is a good VP IMO… too bad he can’t run for pres and GWB can be sideshow.
but there is a concern for alterior motives
what motive???
his old company got the bid and is doing the job… he sits back and gets paid.
sounds like a plan to me.
But it’s not so STFU
Cutty, you seen to like Bush, what do you think about this new report on Iraq?
Bush is ok, i don’t love him but he’s better than the alternative. I think anyone in power when something like 9/11 happends is fighting a uphill battle, fuck the people hanging on his ankles tryin to pull him down, he;s the president for christs sake.
Oh, I could have added more, but we’ve been doing this for months and its really kinda tiring.
As for the “on Sept 12th we would have went to war” comment…
Of course we would have. If we would have dropped a nuke on Afgnahistan, no one in the US would have cared. It wouldnt have been the right decision though. It was a decision made in the heat of anger. Its not like we couldnt have went in and wiped the floor with Iraq whenever the hell we wanted to. The president needs to think about this shit before devoting billions of dollars and thousands of lives to something that in hindsight is so foolish. We totally blew off out allies. We should have waited.
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His motives are supposed to be to do whats best for america, not what is gonna line his already deep pockets even further.
you are right that anyone in power is fighting an uphill battle. However, Bush fucked up. Everyone knows he fucked up. He wont admit that he fucked up and wants 4 more years of the same bullshit, therefore someone else with a better idea and a level head should get a shot.
i don’t htink this needs a explanation but anyway…
they didn’t bid…they just got the job hande to them.
if you need your car worked on, do you want you parents to pick who does the work no matter wha the price when your paying for it??
thats the reason for contractors putting in a bid…make the market more competitive
and of course no one has anything to say about the haliburton over billing from before
and on the topic of big business…how but companies that make an off-shore headcourters (which is usually a mallbox or one room office) to avoid US taxation when 99.9% of the company is in the US…then bush gives all big business a tax cut…do these companies deserve it?? NO!
thank you
The average american thinking it’s OK to blow up a country is a lot different than being the president, blowing smoke up everyone’s ass about WMD, and taking a country to war over nothing. Bush did the right thing by going into Afganistan, but Iraq is a different story. Being the most powerful person in the world, you can’t make emotional decisions that involve going to war. On 9-12-01 every person I talked to wanted to goto war, even me. A little later I was told that Iraq had WMD and I also wanted to goto war with Iraq and get them before they got us, but now things are a little different. Being a superpower like the US, you can’t make assumptions about something as severe as WMD and not expect to take the heat for it. It was a big gamble and Bush chose the wrong side and hopefully will lose the election because of it. I don’t care who signed for it and who was for it when it all started, the fact is Bush came on tv and lied to the american people about Iraq.
I know it’s all about money for the VP, but they should at least try a little bit to hide the favortism. A no bid contract is just plain stupid when the ex CEO is the VP. It just doesn’t make sense and they had to know it was going to bite them in the ass.
by expiditing the bid process he started the rebuild faster… american’s had no say in the bid process anyway… so it would of just been wasted time on government litigation… expedient decision making.
Vote Libertarian. Next election. You fucks in PA could make or break the election. Vote Kerry. Bush is very much for big business. Like Edwards hit on last night, Bush picked the drug companies over the people multiple times in his 4 years. He picked the multi billion dollar profiting drug companies over the people that are in dire need of the medicine, and can barely afford it. Its unfathomable that he wouldnt let Canadian drug companies supply Americans with drugs (including all those delicious sticky drugs that come out of B.C., but thats a totally different story) for a much lower price.
please don’t tell me that you doubt the existance of any WMD / nukes in that country… i don’t give a shit what reports tell us… they had them.
I know it’s all about money for the VP, but they should at least try a little bit to hide the favortism. A no bid contract is just plain stupid when the ex CEO is the VP. It just doesn’t make sense and they had to know it was going to bite them in the ass.
i agree… it’s totally handed to them… but then again it just got the process in gear and going… if some company was soooo undercut, why didn’t they challenge the no-bid? there are things like higher courts in this country.
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look… bush is game for big business because he knows that big business runs this entire country… please tell me that you think america could survive on mom / pop business’s across the nation???
bush was on the side of drug companies so that they could gain money for R&D for new drugs… and so that the drugs are availble to the people… how about how kerry fucked us for our flu vaccines…
and the people that can’t afford the medicine are lazy ass welfare mooching assholes… they whine and cry “give us more for less”… wouldn’t that be a great life. if a person is out busting their ass they have healthcare… if they own a business they have a supplimental heathcare plan… a heathcare plan will get you the medicine you need… if you’re a lazy piece of shit, you don’t deserve the medicine.