thats usually how a country is run, do what benefits you
but as the worlds only remaining superpower, shouldnt we have a litte bit more of a moral obligation to try and maybe make things a little better in the world? Lead by example? We had the whole world sympathising for us after 9/11, and even into the war in Afghanistan. Then we talk about going into Iraq, ask our allies for help, they think (and rightly so) that its not a good idea. We tell them to fuck off and we’ll go do it ourselves. Then we fuck up, and expect the world to jump in and save our retarded asses from the mess we shouldnt have fucking made that they advised against from the beginning? Makes ya wonder how such an incompetent administration could have possible been elected.
i respect your brother for what he is doing but thats a common hazard of his job and he chose to do it. I also agree that I don’t think we should be there but now its a bit too late for that argument.
Unless you are in the buisness of war you killing 1000 people from a mistake is like comparing apples to pizza. Way too different senerios.
the army is not there just to die. Their lives should be valued just as much as any civililans. They should not be callusly tossed around like poker chips, just because they knew what COULD ultimately happen.
honestly… we still run the world, what we says goes.
Doesn’t give us the right to be bullies, which we’re not. But I can goto sleep better at night, knowing another psychotic dictator is not in charge of a large nation.
I honestly feel there were WMD in Iraq, and maybe some buried in the sand… it is the size of california yknow. But a lot of reports I’ve read, stated Saddam moved a lot of the weapons to syria.
Did I say that? NO. All I said it that it is a JOB HAZZARD and everyone knows that going in. If not they are an idiot. If you don’t realize that Your an idiot.
And to continue on that note, your an idiot if you don’t realize they don;t have a typical 9-5 job. I never said fuck it its only 1000, I said its different comparing some one who does computer work or what ever he does and kills 1000 people compared to 1000 soldiers dying during war time / post war what ever.
Thats like saying “well I could get into my car and die” and trying to compare it to combat :rolleyes:
yes, we still run the world. But economically we are still very dependant on all these other countries. Plus, do we really want to live in a world where everyone hates the US, with our schoolyard bully tactics?
as fas as sleeping better at night, did you ever lose sleep over Saddam before do you ever have any problems sleeping knowing there are lots of other countries out there with crazier dictators and far more weapons? I dont.
wha?
im not arguing that soldiers shouldnt be more prepared to die than a network admin, im saying that just BECAUSE they could die in their line of work, doesnt mean we should just be like “fuck em, they knew that could die”.
I still wonder what may happen with north korea, etc.
that shit worries me a hell of a lot more than Iraw ever did. So does Iran. Both of them are making/have nukes right now, and they both have crazier leaders than Saddam, and they both hate the US just as much as him.
I never said that either and you decided to jump on my shit about what I posted.
I am tired of the people crying about soldier deaths though. They are in combat that shit happends. Its almost like people have a double standard.
-George bush screwed up, but we love johnny because he is doing his job. Wait, its ok Johnny had to kill someone but you are still going to jump down bush’s throat?
If you are going to jump down Bush’s throat and say we shouldn’t be there then why not tell Johnny to stop doing his job because its wrong.
I know what I;m trying to say but its not coming out right because I’m tired. so fuck it if you want to try and decipher or make sense of it be my guest.
How can you possibly be sick of hearing people cry about soldier deaths. as for the last part of your post: They’re in the fucking Army. They cant just be like “ya know what, this is fucking retarded, Bush is a moron, lets pack up our shit and go home”. They are serving at the whim of GWB. They are just following orders.
Its not the normal mourning I’m talking about. Its the stupid ass “well if I killed some one while I was a desk jockey” remarks I’m refereing to along with the people think war is happy go lucky like a GI Joe cartoon.
As for the comment about taking our ball and going home, you are right they can’t, not only because GW is Commander and chief, but also its too late the damage is done we have to try and fix what we can, But all these other idots are like lets pull them…
WTF if you pull them now there is going to be even more issues but people seem to miss that point.
If he had them which I have my doubts about, they are probably in the hands of terrorists that oppose the US now.
Just think about it Saddam knew he was going to lose so he gave his weapons to people that will use them against his enemy that is invading him.
So if there were wmd in iraq, it is likely that the war helped to put them in the hands of terrorists not remove them from the hands of terrorists.
THANK YOU!!
i’ve brought this up many times and no one has anything to say.
I’m all for freeing/liberating a country, but the US only does it where they can financially benifit.
saddam was a bad dictator but some of the dictators/Warlords in Africa have killed many more then him, considering the time frame.
saddam has been in power since 1980…yeah he has killed many, but some of the warlords in africa have killed millions in a few years…
the Rwands thing was like 800,000 during a span of 100 days in 1994
add up all the genocide/ethnic clensing, all the people that died do to the dictator warlord denying them aid/heathcare that was supposed to be give by US/UN, or dying cause of international sactions due to a dictator’s/warlord’s fighting.
that total is way more then the death that saddam caused.
but are we invading & occuping africa…NO…cause there is no financial gain…its sickening.
go to the WHO website and check out the info
So from what your saying all of those innocent women and children that were raped and murdered, and all of his own men were killed just because they were political opponents and they were against him?
…So then that would be OK if Bush Murdered you, because you oppose and are against him?
i think your missing the point…he is saying that there are a lot of other places we should have been & should be now that are worse then Iraq, but were not.
and to me there is a difference in killing someone cause they threaten your rule and killing someone cause they are a different race, religion, sex, etc…
if secret service kills someone cause they try to assasinate the pres…thats a lot different then the president killing all the people in the US that are not white, or not christian
No, but there was much bigger fish to fry than Saddam. Iran, North Korea, and a million others came before saddam in the whole scheme of things.
I’d like to know how we are financially benefitting??
so you people bitch that gas has gone up (of course its Bush’s fault) and yet you say thats a war of “Oil”…mmmmmmkkkk, well then wouldnt gas have gone down?
And you bitch because of all the money we’ve spent over there, but yet we are financially benefiting from it?
WHAT A DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
Besides that, If we would have gone to Africa or some other country and hunted down a Dictator, you people would then be bitching that we didnt go to Iraq first…
we(me & u)are not benifiting…but there are poeple who are…haliburton, worldcom, etc… bush & cheneys friends
like i said…i’m all for liberating/freeing a country…but i think if were gonna do it we should not overlook places.