Comcast is capping bandwidth WTF!

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/business/s_586739.html
By The Star Tribune (Minneapolis)
Saturday, September 6, 2008

MINNEAPOLIS – Comcast’s plan to place a cap on consumer Internet use worries some customers who have come to take unfettered Web surfing for granted, even though most users aren’t affected by the move.

Beginning Oct. 1, Comcast will limit use of Internet bandwidth – a measure of all of a person’s monthly downloads and uploads of text, graphics, music, movies, photos and other information. The company said it reserves the right to terminate any residential customer who disregards company warnings and twice violates a limit of 250 gigabytes per month. Previously, the company didn’t have a specific limit.

The idea is to keep bandwidth hogs from ruining the Internet experience for other residential customers, because the cable network is a shared medium of limited bandwidth capacity, Comcast said.

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But that’s got some Comcast customers worried.

“Your typical Comcast Internet user will not be affected, but the power users – people that watch movies or TV online, or that download a lot of video or software – will be hurt,” said Ryan Coleman, a Comcast Internet customer in Minneapolis who edits photos for a college magazine and downloads 40 to 80 gigabytes of data every week. “I have a feeling that I might be dead in the water in October.”

Others are concerned about what this means for the Internet’s future.

“It’s absolutely critical that the Internet remain a level playing field, and that no one have control over what runs over it,” said Steve Borsch of Eden Prairie, Minn.

Borsch runs a business and blogs about technology using Comcast’s Internet service. He said the bandwidth limit is a bad move because it hurts Internet video services while helping Comcast’s cable TV service.

Some analysts agree.

“A bandwidth limit discourages consumers from downloading or streaming Internet video, particularly of high-definition video,” said S. Derek Turner, research director for Free Press, a Massachusetts-based nonprofit public policy group dealing with Internet and media issues. “That helps preserve Comcast’s traditional cable TV service.”

Comcast says such concerns are overblown. The company’s monthly bandwidth limit is so high – the equivalent of downloading about 62,500 songs – that fewer than 1 percent of its customers are likely to be affected, said spokesman Charlie Douglas at Comcast’s Philadelphia headquarters. Today, the average Comcast customer uses only a tiny fraction of the limit, he said, or about 2 to 3 gigabytes a month.

But Turner said the bandwidth limit is likely to affect more Comcast Internet users in the near future because of products such as Apple TV that can transfer Internet video to television sets.

“Comcast’s 250-gigabyte bandwidth cap, while very high now, won’t be high in the future,” Turner said. “The way the Olympics were viewed on the Internet signals that consumers are ready to embrace online content.”

Even today, someone watching eight hours a day of a standard-definition video or four hours a day of high-definition video could run afoul of Comcast’s bandwidth cap, Turner said.

Douglas said Comcast will periodically review the bandwidth limit as online video viewing increases, but he declined to say whether the company would increase it.

Comcast has said that the bandwidth cap is unrelated to a recent Federal Communications Commission finding that Comcast was improperly limiting the ability of its customers to use BitTorrent, a popular file-sharing program. On Thursday, Comcast said it was appealing the FCC’s ruling.

Yep, the FCC told them they cant packet shape Bit Torrent traffic(which is a great and horrible design at the same time)… So now they are capping people officially.

I am installing a new firmware on my router so I can track my usage. I havent really been downloading anything as of late so hopefully I wont have to deal witht his. First time I do Im calling VZ for fios.

I hate Comcast

Holy shit, maybe go run a few laps around the block instead. :smiley:

250 GB is a large amount of data. A typical residential high-speed Internet user doesn’t even come close to using that amount of data. To put it in perspective, currently, the median data usage by our high-speed customers is approximately 2 - 3 GB each month. 250 GB falls more into the excessive use category—going well above and beyond typical Internet usage.

To reach 250 GB in a month, for example, a customer would have to do any of the following:

* Send 50 million emails (at 0.05 KB/email)
* Download 62,500 songs (at 4MB/song)
* Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)
* Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)

FTW

  • A lot of other companies are already capping bandwidth, but people just don’t know about it because they rarely hit that cap.

Even if Comcast said it was capping at 250 TB/mo, people would still be up in arms because they would feel their freedom to be 1337 and download Blu-Ray torrents all day was taken away from them.

I have had comcast send me an e-mail before stating I was suspected of running a web server because of how much traffic was coming from my ip address. I was trying out that leaf networks program with my brother and a few friends and uploaded/downloaded a ton of info. They told me I could get the business class internet for more money and not worry about the limits. :dunno:

Well yeah that too. It wasn’t capped before, but if you were moving a lot of data they would call you out because it cuts bandwidth from other customers in your area.

fuckem.

FIOS FTW!

until Verizon puts their own cap, but 250gb ain’t too bad. I estimate about 15GB every 8-10 days of usage…

Obama wants to fight bandwidth caps and mandate faster internet from internet service providers. He is concerned of what he sees as a trend among companies like AT&T and Time Warner to give the customer less for more.

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Goof. What its boiling down to is ISP dont want to run new fiber/copper for their networks. Cost wise i can see why. Hell my company ran out of bandwidth and turned up a few 10gb connections this week.

My verizon internet on my laptop was a cap (aircard)

Somehow I go over that cap quite often … I have NO CLUE how. Im guessing the amount of photos I upload from doing photography??

Probably a dumb question so school me.

Streaming videos, does that count towards bandwidth usage?

neighbor stealing

I asked that question at Verizon when I was bitching about paying so much extra (they KILL you when you go over) and they said that streaming videos do count.

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They might be … I havn’t uploaded any pictures this month, so I’ll see if I go over or not. Verizon told me that only 1% of thier clients go over the allotted amount … I dont dl songs anymore from my laptop, and I only watch small clips from youtube, photobucket, etc (clips that are posted here and on other boards)… So I have no clue why I go over :rant:

I’m a goof? I thought that the post was relevant.

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lol… how is it fios for the win? they have limits in place too

duh… every service provider has to have limits to keep within the guidelines they give consumers when they sign up for service or they won’t be able to guarantee service.

that obama article is stupid… it could have been written so much better and so much more logical that it would actually almost resemble something logical coming as ‘change’. Protecting privacy online, sure!!! and not allowing content-filtering or at least mandating that if content-filtering is going on that it’s explained up front…sure! but to say that he wants to enforce no-bandwidth limits on companies is just preposterous and stupid. again… the internet and service providers aren’t some money-tree growing off in the forest… these are things that have empirical limits and static scopes… you can’t ‘un-limit’ everyone’s internet or it will run out!!! I don’t get it??? it’s stupid… comcast limits bandwidth so that when shaggy watches 800gb of porn a month, you or I don’t have to suffer with slow Internet or limited downloads…

it’s simple logistics of any service provider… it’s done in the industry with every product imaginable… for people to think that they need unlimited bandwidth is stupid. for someone to think that they can just mandate a company to not limit bandwidth is just downright idiotic.