Dell only offers vista, what to do. does it suck that bad??

Alright. I got my monitor picked out. I go to dell to order a tower. put in all the options i want. I get to operating system and all they offer is Vista now.I ask a Dell sales person if they offer XP and she says sure, on a 1200 dollar XPS system :wtf:. Is Vista really that bad??? i want to spend under 400 on a tower. anything will be better than my 7 year old dell with 712 worth of ram and a 40gig HD thats maxed out.

Dos, I dont want your MAC.

Do some searching on their site you can opt out of a operating system all together… in the small business section?

build a pc off newegg for cheaper than a dell

Yes vista is friggin terrible, if you buy a pc make sure there is xp drivers for it.
I got a work computer and there isnt Xp drivers for it, I HATE IT.

I have vista, and do not have any issues with it. It might depend on what you plan on doing with the computer. I wouldn’t say it’s better though.

i spent about $500 on ebay and got:

Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 motherboard
Intel core 2 duo 1.86ghz (overclocks to 3.5ghz)
Corsair DDR2-800mhz (2x1gb)
e-GeForce 7950 gt video card
freezer 7 pro cpu cooler
Zalman 600 watt power supply - heat pipe cooled w/ modular wiring
500gb sata hard drive to compliment my 500gb ide hard drive
+new drive cables. 2 new fans, artic silver, and some other lil ish

and slapped it in my old case

You can’t build a pc for less if you plan on using a legal OS.

And vista is not that bad. If you listen to the people who didn’t give it an honest chance than your gonna think it’s bad. I have been using vista since it came out, and it’s great. But if you feel like sticking with xp, than so be it…

Just a heads up though, installing xp on a dell can be a pita, and you will be missing some features that boost performance. (sata speed is ‘limited’, intel turbo cache needs to be disabled, and something else i forgot right now) Also gonna say, installing xp on an intel chipset is 1000x easier than it is w/ an amd/nvidia chipset.

i reused my copy of xp on mine

i like vista, no issues here.

vista sucks but it is usable…

if you want an out of the box computer with XP, CDW still sells XP machines.

I’ve been using vista ultimate for 6 months,it really isn’t that bad.It has been stable for me,my games & apps run fine on it.

Bottom line : It feels like the same Microsoft shit we’ve been getting for the past 13 years,only with a better GUI.

except with millennium like crashes.

vista is fine if you don’t plan to do a lot with it and are impressed by plush gui’s (which worked for me for a while)

sure you can

run linux

sorry, I couldn’t resist. Oh and Vista is not that bad, just a lot of fggt ass complainers out there.

vista is fine. just buy it. seriously

vista is fine for 90 somthing % of users.

I’ve got it on two boxes now, for ~6-7 mo’s. no real complaints.

Vista has been my main software development workstation for 6 months now. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. I have had almost zero issues with it and hate going back to XP now.

The majority of people who hate Vista either:
A: Tried to upgrade from XP, and upgrades never run as good as clean installs or,
B: Tried putting it on some shitty old computer they had that really doesn’t have the power Vista needs or,
C: Are just stupid and heard “Vista bad” so they repeat it like a parrot without knowing anything about computers.

Then there is the small percentage who have legitimate problems because they’re hardcore gamers and some game they love won’t work right in Vista.

what about www.delloutlet.com ? You can still get alot of PC’s there with XP afaik.

werd.

don’t listen to the vista haters. Vista is a perfectly fine OS… since you are getting a machine designed around it, opposed to trying to load it onto an ancient Pentium 4 or something. Just make sure you apply all the updates and SP1 and you’ll be good to go.

If you’ve never used the OS before, give it a week or two to learn it before getting rid of it. It’s laid out a little different than XP is and takes some getting used to.

heh, I have the same CPU cooler. Did you have to cut the fan cage to clear the memory banks?

is it true vista needs a lot of ram to run smoothly??

I’m running 4GB (cost less than 150) and NO problems with memory. I, personally, wouldn’t go with anything less than 1.5Gb… get more if you plan on using it for a workhorse.

1.5 is fine for web surfing, general software and email.

Just a point of reference, on vista with NOD32, Commodo firewall, VirtualPC (running XP), XM sidebar, PC monitor sidebar, Firefox and Photoshop all running, it uses approx 50% of my memory. The biggest hit probably comes from VirtualPC

edit: keep in mind that if you upgrade the memory yourself and you are running vista 32bit, you’re limited to approx 3.25GB of memory, even if you have more installed. Go for vista/XP x64 if you want more