Also, ive had dish in the past, its all about the programming, yes it has more HD, but most of it is that crap Voom they bought, which is not real HD to begin with. I liked Dish when i had it, but when they wouldent carry YES i switched, will i ever go back ,probably not, as I like my Tivo and all of its features, and they give me deals all the time for free shit.