Don't Buy An RV

I’m not in the market, but this video from a lawyer makes the idea of buying an RV sound like a potential nightmare:

My first problem with this guy is that the manufacturer generally doesn’t have much input in the repair process, unless you go right to the factory. Most dealerships handle that and they negotiate what is covered under warranty with the manufacturer of each product.

When I worked in the business, yes we had many complaints and issues, but they took care of everything and made people happy.

The problem with buy backs are that the dealer is responsible for it, not the manufacturer. When someone buys one and then wants a “buy back”, the trailer or motorhome has now been titled and is considered to be used. They can’t just buy it back, fix it and sell it as new again.

If you buy an RV and don’t know the manufacurer of the motor, you deserve what you get. :choda:

When you buy a 300k house and a water pipe bursts, do you lawyer up and sue someone? I feel like this guy is just trying to promote how good he is at representing people to get money from insurance companies and line his pockets at the same time.

Being in the insurance industry has taught me that it’s my job to protect people from other people like this guy…

Well, I didn’t come away from listening to this as if he was successful with any of his attempts to represent clients at all. He never once mentioned having a case go his way.

I guess for me I viewed buying an RV as more like buying a car, but he makes it seem more like buying a house.

It absolutely is like buying a house, which is why you can write the interest off as a 2nd home on your taxes. Can’t do that with a car…

Maybe this guy should look at boats, he might just lose his shit on his little podcast.

You are basically buying a house on wheels, that bounces down the road at 60 MPH, 80 if you’re in Texas or any other western state.

When I sold Fred Jackson his first RV, he didn’t even know how to flush the toilet, let alone drive it down the road. I got a call at 3 in the morning on my cell phone from him, frantically telling me that they hit a low bridge in Iowa and the ripped the AC unit off the roof, leaving a gigantic hole.

I instructed him that he needed to either find a repair facility or get a hotel and I would send a guy to pick it up. He insisted they would make the drive back home and I met him at the dealership the next day and helped them get situated.

Fast forward to 6 months later when we fixed his rig and he decided he wanted a bigger one, with custom paint, seats, cabinetry, etc…I worked out all the details, built him his dream rig and got him setup to understand and be able to use his new rig.

https://nflbills.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/fred-motor-home.jpg?w=882&h=497

https://nflbills.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/fred-family-motor-home.jpg?w=882&h=497

See those cabinets and hardware? Those were custom that I had to bust my ass to get made because wife wanted the ‘blonde’ color cabinets and the SS cabinet pulls. Same can be said for the fabric, shades, extra tv’s, DVD players in the bunks, washer/dryer, etc…

What this guy fails to realize is that there are a lot more people and processes to buying an RV than just walking in, picking a color, negotiating finance terms and scheduling your pick up date.

I realize there are alot of snakes out there, but if you find a dealership/salesperson that actually takes pride in helping you and making sure that you are happy with your purchase and not just up to delivery, but throughout the ownership, you will have a lot more help and understanding on how things work and get down the road quicker and safer.

/rant

ps don’t ban me bro! :ohnoes:

Haha why would I ban you? I actually meant to tag you in the thread to get your thoughts but you posted already anyway.

It’s interesting stuff to me.

Are there any brands out there that manufacture all 3 (chassis, engine & body) in house?

Tiffin is the closest to doing it all, but they still use big name motors.

They make their own chassis (Powerglide), but there are mixed reviews on it…

Another big name, Entegra coach takes Spartan and Freightliner chassis and they beef it up before it goes down their assembly line.

It’s just like anything though…it all costs the same to build, but each company cuts corners in certain places to make up their bottom line. It just depends where each one wants to make that cut and how far down the line it will effect.

If you’re buying a 15k trailer, chances are they are using the same appliances, windows, etc…

The difference will be construction of floor and roof (ie OSB vs. Plywood)…on fiberglass trailers, it’s all about the bonding process…(a hung wall vs a vacuum sealed wall) but again, each have their pros and cons and the price difference as well. If you’re willing to pay more, you will get a better product. Most customers fail to truly see why one is more expensive and why it is that way. They get jaded by floor plans, fabric choices and features.

I had this conversation with a rep from camping world at the fair last night. Guy was retarded. He kept insisting that it didn’t really matter becasue one had to sell against another. 37’ = 37’ no matter the construction. Somehow this guy basically thinks that a Chevy impala and a Mercedes e class are the same car.

Some sales guys get so caught up in their own pitch that they fail to see truth from bullshit. I as quick on my feet, but I never bullshitted anyone. I gave it to them straight and it made it easy to get to what was really important to them.

I preferred to work with customers who knew their shit, but then again, I did believe I sold the best products in the market and to this day, I still do feel that way.

RV’s are humongous nightmares. Any good RV salesmen will prep a first time buyer about this. They are not machine built turn key pieces of equipment. Does shit go wrong in your house? Imagine putting your house through an earthquake constantly. People are always worried about the chassis and I just laugh because that is the least of their problems.

People constantly think they can get out of a deal where they already own something and it cracks me up. It is titled in your name. They think because they had some issues they can just start over. Nope. You can trade it in. We will do our best to help you out but you are going to lose some monies.

Nudes of his wife please.

Somehow I think RVs are worse than boats

after sleeping in a tent in a parking lot during a flood at limerock this weekend, an RV is sounding pretty nice. Still, I think the whole tax and road laws for RVs are a bunch of bullshit. Some 16 year old kid on a learner’s permit can drive a giant RV towing an enclosed trailer while dad sleeps in the back, but if I want a small tractor trailer it’s like the world is ending for me to drive it and I can’t take it on half the roads I want either.

I used to work with Rob, but in the parts dept. What a friggen nightmare it was chasing down parts and fighting for warranty shipments. I remember there was one motorhome that someone test drove and took out a mailbox ruining every single compartment door on the right side. We had to order custom built doors for the entire side, then have them painted to match on side and have the decals custom cut because every rig got different decal placement. Once finally finished, it went back on the lot and a week later a DIFFERENT test drive was taken and they did the exact same thing to the exact same motorhome. Boy was that a fun call to place. “wait, didn’t we just do doors for this and you have them??” “yeahhhhh, it happened again”

shortly after that test drives were not allowed.

After working at a local rv place for a little while now, i wouldn’t recommend a rv to my worst enemy. I’ll gladly stick to my zero maintenance pop up tent lol

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After working at a local rv place for a little while now, i wouldn’t recommend a rv to my worst enemy. I’ll gladly stick to my zero maintenance pop up tent lol

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I’ve been casually watching prices on roof tents for my truck. They make them for smaller SUVs like RAV4s too:

I enjoyed having a pop-up when I did…but was hard-pressed to find time to use it and it was cumbersome to store where I live.

On my way back from allegany with my trailer a few weeks back, I witnessed the RV setup that I want.

It was probably $700k, pulling a Chevy 1500 full size truck that had a golf cart in it’s bed.
All it was missing was a boat.

I do not want it enough to ever buy it, but if a rich uncle left me his RV, Boat, truck, and golf cart, I would wait at least 6 months
before selling it all and cashing out.

My parents spent my inheritance on a Newmar Bus 400hp Diesel monstrosity… White Leather, Granite counters, mulitpul slideouts… and have had nothing but issues with it every time they want to take it out. the furnce, the slidouts the…
right now newmar shipped it to indiana for some crazy repair.

I have this:
http://www.nyspeed.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35453&stc=1

and love it.

MY neighbor has this, but the two year older version:
http://www.campingworld.com/rvsales/class-a-diesel-motorhomes/2015/winnebago-grand-tour/447585/

It broke down in front of my house when they tried to go to Arizona this winter. and had to be towed to Basil by Rusiniaks. I don’t want to know how much that cost.

On the flip side, my wife’s aunt and her husband sold everything they owned (house, cars, EVERYHING), bought a coach (fancy term for RV), towable trailer and 3-wheeled spyder thing and spent around 2 years traveling the US. I’m sure it required maintenance but I never heard about any horror stories they had with it. They had a great time traveling the states and have since sold the coach and settled back down.