1 refueling station(s) within 100 mi. of Tonawanda, NY
<b> About 8 mi. NYS Thruway Authority </b> 1870 Walden Ave. Cheektowaga , NY 14225
thats the only source of E85 within 100 miles…does anyone know if thats available for public use? or is that strictly hiway department use only?
[quote=“JDMR2"”]
thats the only source of E85 within 100 miles…does anyone know if thats available for public use? or is that strictly hiway department use only?
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its private look below the address
its only there because some law required that a certian number of state vehicals to be envirmentaly friendly or some shit like that
and by the way, repost
I have yet to see a e85 pump anywhere, and I travel quite a bit.
[quote=“JustinH,post:4,topic:29843"”]
I have yet to see a e85 pump anywhere, and I travel quite a bit.
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Same, hell I did 4000 miles in the past 12 days or so, I still havent seen E85 regularly available yet. I’ve seen it at one station out west and that was it.
[quote=“Bigronsaudi,post:6,topic:29843"”]
in detroit we have them everywhere and its actually cheaper that gas right now
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it should always be cheaper then gas, otherwise it offers zero $ savings, a tank of e85 doesnt last as long as a tank of gasoline
[quote=“HotRodKid,post:7,topic:29843"”]
it should always be cheaper then gas, otherwise it offers zero $ savings, a tank of e85 doesnt last as long as a tank of gasoline
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this is true and no one bought it until gas went to $3.60 in detroit in a past couple weekss
Family Express on Seneca St. and Kurkwood Ave. in West Seneca has a e85 pump.
[quote=“HotRodKid,post:7,topic:29843"”]
it should always be cheaper then gas, otherwise it offers zero $ savings, a tank of e85 doesnt last as long as a tank of gasoline
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[quote=“Bigronsaudi,post:8,topic:29843"”]
this is true and no one bought it until gas went to $3.60 in detroit in a past couple weekss
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so how much does e85 cost compared to regular and how much does your mpg go down when you use it?
[quote=“GA2002GT2,post:9,topic:29843"”]
Family Express on Seneca St. and Kurkwood Ave. in West Seneca has a e85 pump.
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no shit…is it regularly filled or is it just an empty pump atm?
mileage depends on teh car, its important to have a tune that will actualy use the benifits of higher octane, and also add the extra fuel needed (stoich mixture on e85 isnt 14.7:1, its between 9.73 & 9.8:1
they usually say you use about 25% more e85 then you would gasoline
From: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341
Here are some comparisions of stoichmetric fuel mixtures for different fuel blends:
======== stoichmetric AFR ===== max power rich AFR
Gasoline ---------- 14.7:1 -------------------12.5
100% E-85 ------- 9.73-9.8:1 ------------- ~ 9:1 - 8:1
100% fuel ethanol - 9:1 ------------------- ~ 7.2:1
lol, i’m definitely not seeking out E85 for its mpg benefit…
[quote=“JDMR2,post:13,topic:29843"”]
lol, i’m definitely not seeking out E85 for its mpg benefit…
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[quote=“JDMR2,post:11,topic:29843"”]
no shit…is it regularly filled or is it just an empty pump atm?
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I dont know. Never really stoped and looked. Just saw it one day and said wow we have one of those around here. LOL
[quote=“sedlmeier101,post:14,topic:29843"”]
i"ve seen e85 in wisconsin…it was 1.99 a gallon…regular was 2.60
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1.99+25% more burned = $2.49/gal. So you’d save $2.75 on a 25 gallon fillup. The time I’d waste filling up more often isn’t worth $2.75 a fillup.
let’s say you drive A LOT and fill up twice a week that’s a AMAZING $286/yr
:lol:
[quote=“JoesTypeS,post:19,topic:29843"”]
let’s say you drive A LOT and fill up twice a week that’s a AMAZING $286/yr
:lol:
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and for saving 286 for the year, you got to run a whole load more boost, which maybe you couldnt have done without new pistons, or without killing a shitload of timing, or something else of the sort
so in some cases, save $300 in gas, save another 200, 500, 1000 in engine mods to get extra power
i like the idea of e85, even if the hype is all bullshit
examples of bullshit hype:
cnbc reported today that e85 can give 50% more mileage , apparently because it burns hotter. and then you can run a smaller gas tank to get the same distance out of a vehical, which saves weight and gives even more milage
they said this all in reference to indy cars, and everything they either said is crap, or indy car specific