Yeah exactly. Its fairly loud, and John doesnt think a glasspack after the header will quiet it enough, so I am thinking a cat, as it doesnt currently have one. Oh and the muffler has a mount welded to the bottom of the car from the guys that originally did my exhaust. The factory mount is still there, so I have no idea why they did that, but I would like that fixed also. So just a different hanger off the muffler.