not really
so in your opinion neither car can get it down in the corners or on the drag strip?
Granted the cobra stock is slower on both (talking non gt500), but its a decent performer
no, i mean those 2 cars are fine buts not like those are the only 2 cars that are capable of it. im sure it isnt a big deal to get the 3rd gen he has to be that versitile
oh I was just stating my preference lol.
I’m sure a third gen with some suspension and engine work could do it.
one other thing to keep in mind is auto-x classing. once you get into stiffening the body, I think you start running up into the higer, harder classes pretty quickly. Just something to keep in mind as you build.
chris
Third gen’s are still preferred for autox by alot of people simply because of their weight. Making power isn’t a issue, and the suspension on them isn’t all the different from later F-bodys.
The later cobras are good, but not that great. The 5.4 shifts alot of weight to the front. Also the IRS wasn’t designed for the car originally, so the geometry on it isn’t ideal (compared to other IRS cars). In fact its been done several times where mustang guys have made a live axle mustang handle better than the IRS. All that said, we have a guy locally who runs a Convertible supercharged cobra thats got a few mods. Handling wise it does pretty good since he picked his parts well (I’ve driven it, slides awesome lol).
As for the Vette, handling wise even a C4 can put a hurting on most cars. A C5 or C6 is just rubbing it in :burnout: Chris is right to about the classing stuff. But if you don’t really care about classing mod away!
Gosh, i’ll have to vouch for the C4. My white 87 vette was one of the first cars that I got to really get experience around the cones on. Compared to my fiero and other hondas, the vette was so much fun and really competitive. For a while, the only guy in my class that was ahead of me was a maroon M Coupe.
: Chris is right to about the classing stuff. But if you don’t really care about classing mod away![/QUOTE]
basically i just want to run an auto x and drag it at p.r.p . ive never had the chance to do either and would like to give each a try. wheather or not im good at it remains to be seen. i would like to try drifting once also but the first 2 first.
i thought my c4 handled great wish i wouldve got the chance to auto-x it
the only 5.4 Cobras were the 2000 Cobra-R which was an all aluminum engine, which did not make a big weight difference, then there was the GT500.
03/04 Cobra was an SC 4.6, and the 99/01 was an NA 4.6
I’ll stop talking about mustangs now lol. For the record I was referring to the 03/04 models thanks for clearing that up. Though the Mach 1 was/is still pretty popular in the stock classes, however the newest mustang is gaining on it. Back on vette’s real fast, I’m glad to see some people who like the C4 on here. I don’t think they get the credit they deserve they are pretty capable cars.
neonracer, if your wanna hit up a event this year drop me a PM before you go if you want some help.
is it possible to build a car that can be taken to keystone(prp) on friday and be driven home and raced on the auto x the next day without a change of parts?
sorry i didnt see this earlier
yes you can easily build that car and my car is pretty close to being just that.
I got all the suspension bolt ons except sub frame connectors. the car handles exceptionally well but yet i still can get great launches at the strip.
Adjustable shocks is a must to have. set the front light for the strip to get that great front end lift but moderately stiff on rear to eliminate squat. i’m pulling low 1.7 60 foots with just 2800 stall and exhaust on my L98 with et streets. i find that very efficient for strip use.
After i’m done, i bolt up my street rims and twist the shock screws to stiff. it goes back to handling mode. I dont even take off my sway bars at the strip and they are HUGE. 36 mm front, 24 mm rear.
I got Eibach Prokit front and rear springs. they are rated at i believe 710lbs front or close to it, and 170 lbs progressive rear. these are pretty stiff but not overly stiff that it compromises drag launches… like i said, my car does the launch thing very well, and i want to try loosenin the front sway bar to see if it improves.
I got adjustable LCA brackets…where u can move the LCA mounting point. very important when lowering the car and for strip to street. mount them low for best traction but keep them parrallel for better handling. I’ve been playing with my settings and its proven to work. its all about controling body roll and the roll center. You can also get panhard bar relocation mount to play with that to further mess with roll center. Just by playing with the settings on shocks and LCA mounting points you can feel the difference in handling and strip performance.
Now you dont have to play with the LCA’s. just keeping them parrallel with ground like factory geometry is more than enough for good performance.
so the only thing you will have to change from autocross to strip is the addition of dragradials/slicks and shock settings which is sooo easy to do. even lca adjustments can be made in minutes when ur puttin the slick rims on.
At what point does the motor and gearing become part of this equation?
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definatly.