Fun fact:
There are 6 variables that can kill you/cause you to crash on the bike.
You are only one of them. So regardless of how YOU ride or what your style is, there are plenty of other things that can make you crash. Not wearing gear when you ride is a ridiculous risk I refuse to take.
lol. You guys hash this out amongst yourselves. I’ve watched probably close to 60 videos on everything from how to shift gears, how to pass the drivers courses, general reviews, everything. The 300 has PLENTY of power to get around traffic, even on the highway (55-65 - yes you have to drop a gear or two). I don’t plan to drive this thing to Utica or something where I’m on a highway for 1hr+. It’ll be on and off of 787, 87 (where it’s 55), etc. My work commute is 15 miles round trip, and most of it is done at 55 (9W from Selkirk to Glenmont). If I want to cruise and enjoy a nice day, I can go to ALL of my other frequently visited places using streets such as Western, Washington, Lark, Central, Rt. 9, etc. Even the back roads are all 45mph where I’d maybe, possibly, do 55-60 through Voorhesville, New Scotland, etc.
Getting a 600 will literally be a WASTE because I can’t use that power ANYWHERE (to me it doesn’t matter if I get to 45-50 in 2 seconds or 6). I’m not going to be on the interstate all that much where I can do 78mph like I do in the car (or where I’ll need to pass someone who’s doing 70-75). Anything requiring that kind of travel will be done from within the comfort of my luxury car. The interstate is pretty much the only place I stretch my cars legs, so to speak. Otherwise, from lights, I do 0-40 or 50 (depending on the speed limit) and then I go 5-10mph over like a normal person. Usually when I get nailed for speeding (actually, the last 4 times) is because I was in the process (or had just finished) passing someone so my speeds were higher. Just bad timing/horrible luck :lol. Typically I cruise at 10mph over on the highway or 14 over on the interstate. I have never gotten a ticket while ‘cruising’ or maintaining a speed.
Anyhow, ya’ll are beating a dead horse IMO.
Oh and Dave…its I L Y A. :lol (ill-yah or ill-i-yah or simply Eli which is the shortened version of my translated name; Elijah)
Also, for the record since you brought it up, the only bad financial decision I ever made was the ring and it was only bad because I broke off the engagement as I decided I didn’t want to marry the girl. Had it all went through, that was actually a bargain (what I paid) for the ring. The car tanked in value because I put on 30kmi a year on it the first 2 years (just recently was my 3rd year owning it and I put on 80kmi). Condition wise, if it had less miles, I’d hardly be behind…but due to the EXTREME jump in miles, the value plummeted. This would happen to most any car…especially luxury cars which lose their value a bit faster.
If he buys it new or finances it he’s fucking retarded I don’t care WHAT he buys lol.
It’s not supposed to be impressive man. It’s not about how big his 1/4 mile dick is. It’s supposed to prove that the bike is no worse than his car and is likely much better as far as evading incidents.
I won’t be financing. 2-3k is not a lot, so it’ll be cash.
That’s wonderful news ilya but this thread stopped being about you like two pages ago bro.
Just don’t tint the windscreen.
It’s gonna be painted black, bruh.
Would smash 3/5.
in all seriousness though… if you get one ilya, just get a newer body one. the old ones are extra gay.
300’s just came out, so it’s new alright.
I’ve done 6 hour trips on the r6 to south jersey I would strong recommend not using a SS bike for long trips! :rofl
This
Not gonna waste my time searching for it, but actually, a guy on the KawiForums rode across the entire country on a 250 and kept an updated thread of his journey. Rode through heavy rain/wind, you name it. He was very impressed with the 250.
For the extra ~50cc’s, the 300 though has a lot more power and “get-up-and-go” then the 250 does.
That’s why I decided to hold out a bit for when the 300’s star coming down in price. I don’t necessarily like the fairings all that much on the new bikes compared to the 250’s, but I like the speedometer/tach MUCH better and the extra 50cc’s (based on videos) seems to make quite the difference. Plus, the mod bug will bite so I’m sure there are a couple of small tweaks I can do to add some more power if I find the 300 lacking for any reason (highly unlikely).
I_L_Y_A, you not a fan of motards?
They don’t appeal to me looks wise. The only bikes I like, aesthetically, are sport bikes and bobber type bikes. Everything else just doesn’t look good to me.
Here is a good video of the 300, Dave:
[ame=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuHj8l1PgA”]Ninja 300 vs Ninja 250R Review Comparision - YouTube[/ame]
Ilya… have you ever ridden a bike? Street or dirt. If no, have you even worked a clutch’d atv? Not being a dick just wondering.
Reason being, I have tried to teach alot of first riders how to ride a street bike. Some didnt even know what lever the clutch and brake were! I feared for their life if they made it to the street. lol I would NEVER tell them to ride anything with more than 30hp@ 400lbs.
And yes dave your 250 was dog shit slow! lol I didnt ride yours but I rode the same bike before and it was pitiful slow. My wifes CRF150R would smoke it! lol BUT honestly, thats bike is about the BEST beginner bike you could put someone on.
-Lighter than the Ninja250/300
-rides like a couch
-brakes are actually decent
-clutch is forgiving beyond belief
-zero tq, you could be in a turn and blast full throttle and never spin the tire
-good street only tires and it will grip a turn well beyond a beginner/intermediate riders skill
-cheap as fuck. drop it on the ground (which WILL HAPPEN) and you scuff a $40 handle bar and $20 rear fender. Ninja you can total out by tipping over not even moving. Literally.
yeah it looks like a dirt bike, but lets be honest you arent putting chicks from the bar on the back of it… wont be doing that on a ninja 250 either (weight wise)
As mentioned smart rider or not, a 600 sport bike will put a rider down from an accidental heavy blip of the throttle mid turn, not preloading the suspension properly, improper brake modulation, cold tires, etc… EVEN if you ride around like a pussy everywhere, your a new rider, have zero muscle memory (brain muscle I am talking, acumulated instinctual responses on a bike) and you WILL do some if not all of the above at the wrong time at least once, and once is all it takes to put you on the pavement/grass/field/guardrail/wall/tree/car…
Nope, never ridden any type of ATV/Bike/what have you. But, I can drive manual all day long and I’ve watched loads of videos on how to shift gears, etc. to prepare myself for the first time I get on the BRC bike (whatever it is). The only problem I forsee having is getting use to roll off the throttle and pulling the clutch. The shifting didn’t make sense to me reading until I watched one youtube video where the guy put the camera low to show his foot in action. After that visual, I was good to go.
But, just like a car, it’s just a matter of learning the feeling and getting the coordination down IMO from what I’ve watched/read. I stalled my dads 92 Chevy 1500 like 8 times when I was 13 before I got the hang of it :lol. That was the first time I ever tried to drive a manual. I’m sure I’ll have my minor jerks and maybe a stall or two on the bike…but isn’t that what BRC is for? :lol
And I already have a rule that I won’t give rides or ‘pick up chicks’…doesn’t matter if I’m on a 300 or a liter bike. I don’t want someones life in my hands even an accident happens that isn’t my fault (someone hitting me). It will be and my bike, and that’s it. Rear seat will be replaced by this sweet looking cowl I’ve found and it’ll stay that way.
exactly what I thought, no offense. And that would wipe any bike with more than 30hp@400lbs off the chart for you for atleast a few thousand miles of seat time.
When you stall a bike, it stops fast, you jerk forward and you will tip side to side… even if your a jolly green giant people drop the bikes on the side all the time doing that. Exactly why I strongly suggest NOT buying a new ninja 300 right off the bat. A: its still about 400lbs with fuel and liquids and B: plastics, front faring, pipe, mirrors and tail are about $1000 I bet to replace them.
A motard is 230lbs or so, which is ALOT less to catch as your tipping over, especially if your footing isnt good or you dont respond fast enough. And its $40 for a set of bars if they get bent, and the tail if you even care about the scratches in the raw plastic is $20.
I taught a few new riders who didnt even understand what levers did what… and they all dropped the bike on the ground in the parking lot we were in like i said above.
Lastly, the steering on slow speed turns are night and day harder on that ninja (and that ninja is night and day easier than a standard sport bike) to make a slow tight turn than a motard. 100% put money on you will hit that “Ohh shit no more steering” point turning slow, and again without the muscle memory to pull the clutch in, get off the gas and hit the brakes, all while the bike is already tipping over becasue you ran out of steering travel you will drop it right there too. Again, nothing to be ashamed of we all have done it atleast once! Hell My ducati SUCKS becasue I lost a bunch of steering travel when I modded it up and I almost dropped it a few times that way.
I would, without a doubt… get on a quad with a clutch and ride it around, ALOT. its the exact same clutch and shifting concepet as a bike… but a thumb throttle. Then when your used to it get on a dirt bike… and have fun with that twist throttle for the first time too… Hell my first time on a dirtbike I sent myself into the woods becasue I wasnt used to the twist throttle at all!
thennnnn get on pavment with some sort of bike.
THEN take the course… IRC the course is only one day riding around… startting with ZERO ability to even make a bike move forward and stop + everything else is IMO way too much to gather in 8 hrs dicking around in a parking lot.
THEEEENNNNNN buy a bike, you can fix when it hits the ground.
Eh, I dont know Mike … gonna have to disagree. While throttle control was of course an issue learning on a 600cc at first, I will say I never had a problem with starting from a stop, or shifting. My dad showed me clutch and throttle and brake… I felt where the clutch caught and after a couple minutes in the driveway, off I went.
Not sure if Ive ever stalled a bike since I first started riding (knock on wood) so I think he’ll be fine starting on a small bike.
I dropped my 900RR in a driveway a couple months intof riding, some scratched up fairings and damaged pride but oh well.
