Flight 3407 Tragedy Thread *****

lady sits next to me here at work, her husband works for them and i guess he was aware that they were going to be on the plane if they ended up going.

try the “gravel driveways” of costa rica.

I was talking to Thurman Thomas’ daughter Angel today and she told me her dad was actually supposed to be on that flight but chose to wait for another flight because it got delayed.

:tdown: such a tragedy.

press conference going on now…they have already started analyzing the data recorders, and apparently ice is the suspected cause, but not 100% confirmed.

They updated the information and added more names :frowning:

Pilot, Capt. Marvin Dean Renslow of Lutz, Fla.

First flight officer Rebecca Lynne Shaw, 24, of Maple Valley, Washington, had joined Colgan Air,in January 2008 and had flown 2,244 hours with Colgan. Records show she was certified as a flight instructor.

Flight attendant Matilda Quintero.

Flight attendant Donna Prisco.

Capt. Joseph Zuffoletto, off-duty crew member from Jamestown.

Former Amherst resident Beverly Eckert, the widow of Sean Rooney, who was killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Eckert was traveling to Buffalo for a family celebration of what would have been her husband’s 58th birthday.

Alison Des Forges, who once taught at the University at Buffalo, historian and human rights activist who documented the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.

Ellyce Kausner, a graduate of Clarence High School and Canisius College, who was a second-year student at Florida Coastal School of Law in Jacksonville, Fla. She was traveling home to visit her family and boyfriend before final exams.

Madeline Loftus, 24, a former Buffalo State College student who lives in New Jersey. She was on her way to reunite with 14 other alumni of Buffalo State’s women’s ice hockey team for a game Saturday. Loftus played for the school team from 2002 to 2004.

Jerome Krasuski, 53, was returning home to Cheektowaga with three other colleagues from Northrop Grumman, where he was a program manager. The former North Tonawanda resident worked for the Williamsville defense contractor for more than 20 years. He became a grandfather for the first time four months ago with the birth of his granddaughter, Ava. Krasuski’s three Northrop Grumman colleagues also died in the crash.

Susan Wehle, cantor at Temple Beth Am, Amherst, was returning home from a vacation in Costa Rica. The daughter of Holocaust survivors, Wehle, 55, was a cantorial soloist at Temple Sinai in Amherst for nearly 10 years before joining Temple Beth Am in 2002. She has two sons, Jonah and Jake.

Don McDonald, Fort Erie resident, was a technical manager at Pharmetics, Inc. in Fort Erie for 26 years. “Don was returning from New Jersey where he was reviewing some packaging equipment that the company was planning to buy,” said Peter Lucyshyn, vice-president of quality operations.

Zhaofang Guo 55, of Williamsville, husband of Dr. Ping Wang. Dr. Wang works at Roswell Park Cancer Institute.

Rochester native Gerry Niewood, 64, and jazz guitarist Coleman Mellett, of East Brunswick, N.J., both musicians with the Chuck Mangione Band, were scheduled to perform tonight at Kleinhans Music Hall.

Mary “Belle” Pettys, of West Seneca, was returning to Buffalo area from a business trip to New Jersey. Pettys had spent 25 years working for Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Western New York and since 2006 had been employed by TriZetto, a healthcare company. She got engaged last December on her 50th birthday, and was to be married this June.

David M. Borner, of Pendleton, who worked for Kraft Foods, was returning from a business trip in New Jersey. He had planned to leave for a Florida cruise with his family this morning. His has one child in Starpoint High School and another in Starpoint Middle School.

Lorin Maurer, 30, of Princeton, N.J. worked for Princeton University’s Office of Development Priorities. She was traveling to Buffalo for the first time to attend the wedding of Keith Kuwik, brother of her boyfriend Kevin Kuwik. Both are sons of former Erie County Legislator Edward J. Kuwik of Lackawanna.

Jean Srnecz, senior vice-president of merchandising for book distributer Baker & Taylor, was traveling to the Buffalo area to visit family. She was a gradulate of D’Youville College.

Douglas C. Wielinski, 61, an engineer and veteran, was believed to be in the dining room of the family’s Clarence Center home when the airplane crashed into the house. Wielinski’s wife, Karen, was able to escape by crawling out of the family room in the rear of the house. His daughter, Jill, was blown out of the house, officials said.

Carl Yarber, 62, of Riverside, Calif., was originally from Dayton, Ohio, and became a musician after the serving in the Vietnam War, according to his ex-wife. He was headed to Buffalo spend time with a friend.

Originally there was talk of 2 grown children in the house, was that bogus?

only the 22 year old daughter

So I just found out one of our used car managers was supposed to be on that plane but was unable to get a ticket because it was full. He was at an auction in Jersey and ended up putting a plate on one of the cars he bought and driving it home.

talk about fate.

i spent the whole day worrying about my ex as she lives in buffalo and flys alot … if anyone on here has fam/friends who were on that flight, my condolences.

so scary
so sad

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/schuman2003/Original.jpg
Compare to the picture on page 12.

Picture a friend emailed me today.

http://www.aero-news.net/

Ice buildup + Flaps + Gear - speed = bad news

Like I have been talking all day…

wow

i was there watching this … i never seen so many emergency vehicles at one place in my life, it a was scary seeing the all the smoke, flame and flahing lights… i didnt realize it was this major til i got home and seen the news and actually found out what happen.

WOW…Just WOW

it was a mad house on goodrich today. They didn’t even want to let us into work.

Ice induced stall spin once the leading edge slats were extended. Not a tail stall or anything else. The windscreen was covered over, and a stall spin takes about 1,500 feet minimum to recover. They never had a chance.

I just got back from taking my litter tinker toy up. Did a few spins. I can’t imagine the fear of that happening with an iced over windscreen.

SAW

thank you