Ditched the '00 Jetta TDI with 378k… Kinda sad, until…
Picked up a '13 Mini hardtop 6 speed, w/ 90 miles lol. 38mpg mixed city/highway. Eats 89 octane.
For the cost of gas versus diesel, it evens out. Not to mention, it’s not slow as a school bus.
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Averaging 43 mpg in my '10 golf TDI. Usually fill up every 3 weeks or so.
I just saw something about a VW that gets 84mpg… Banned from America, imagine that.
maybe BS(?)
http://www.realfarmacy.com/volkswagens-new-300-mpg-car-not-allowed-in-america/
this one?
oops that was the 300mpg one… but they do mention the other one:
You will NOT see the Xl1 in America, even it’s far less efficient 85 mpg non hyrid full size station wagon counterpart – the Jetta TDI blue motion wagon, which is made in America is banned from American roads.
Doesn’t say if thats imperial gallons or US gallons but either way its higher mileage than any car here.
Went from my civic that averaged 33mpg to my truck that probably gets half of that 
Hopefully the mix between that and the Miata/bike won’t be terrible.
Bump.
An update on my 2013 Chevy Volt after 14 months and 14,000 miles. I’ve even had a couple of 250+ mile trips this year, which accounted for a lot of my gas use and a lot of my lifetime MPG. I’m at 162 MPG average over the life of the car so far. If I didn’t go on those two trips, I’d still be up in the 250+ range… but that’s cheating.
Total gas over 14 months: $348.25 of premium TOTAL.
Total electric to charge: ~12 KW/h per day (if totally empty) = ~$1.42/day in electric
Estimated electric for 14 months * 30 = 420 days * $1.42 = ~$600 in electric for all 14 months.
Total “fuel” cost = $950 for 14 months.
I’m pretty satisfied with that. Out of the $348.25 of gas I used, the two road trips account for over 1/4 of all of my gas costs. Most days, I don’t drive over 40 miles.
With how great the car is year round, when my 3 year lease is up, I’m going to be getting the 2016 Volt 2.0 for sure. It’ll have better battery range… and be cheaper than this one. Can’t wait.
1998 BMW M3, 5spd. 65 mile commute 1 way ~60mph 2 stop lights… moderate driving… meaning, i’ve had a few WOT when passing vehicles etc.
average 28.7 on the last 4 fillups. Pretty damn good for a mid 90’s motor with 150k on it.
After driving to and from Boston NY to Tonawanda all week, I’m averaging 35 mpg in the Miata. And I was pretty harsh on it on the back roads too.
Next week I might be switching to the truck, helllooooooo 18 mpg
My cavalier gets about 25mpg. It sucks. (For having to deal with it being a cavalier). I’d take my 15mpg Evo all day long lol.
I drove to and from rochester twice in a week and averaged 26 on that gas tank.
I get 23 in winter time.
I average about 45 mpg in my 2014 Jetta TDI
That is seriously impressive, but some people won’t stop and do the math on that. Not to fuel any debates, I would just like to know from an environmental perspective, the positive emissions reduction and “negative” impact of disposing or recycling the battery (s) in 10 years.
25MPG in my 08 f350 4x4 crew cab. when the programmers set low I get pretty decent mileage, and the price of diesel is dropping!
My Accord has been pretty good to me. Its a 2013 6 speed 2.4. If I drive it for good mileage I average around 35. Depending on the route it will get over 40 sometimes. Last tank I got over 500 miles. Sadly, it makes really nice intake noises so I tend to beat on it a little but I still get high 20s low 30s. My civic has no balls so whether you beat the brakes off it or drive it like you’re 85 years old it still gets mid 30s.
I’d say that the fossil fuel emissions are a lot more important than the one time production/recycling effect of the batteries.
Here’s a great website by Tesla, which shows fuel usage savings and state by state fossil fuel emissions comparisons.
Since the Volt goes around 40 Miles on electric, the Tesla website comparing 40 miles is actually really decent. Scroll on the map to NY and click on it. I’d say that electric cars do quite a bit for the environment. In large cities, it’ll also move the emissions from the streets, to the power plant far away, reducing smog… increasing air quality… all that junk.
Cool, thanks for the link. Quick math says the emissions from the Natural Gas, Hydro, and Nuclear are on average an ~80% reduction in CO2 emissions alone vs a gas engine powering the car. So what happens to the battery(s)?
FYI, I’ve done some aero mods to my Civic EX 5spd, I was getting 40mpg for a while in the summer, now its 38 with the temp drop. I have sourced a CX 5spd trans with 3.25:1 final drive vs. the EX’s 4.25:1. This will drop my rpm at 70mph from 3,000 rpm to 2,300 rpm. I’m thinking this should bump me to 45mpg, and make driving on the highway quieter and calmer
calculated by hand or trip computer? Either way, that’s good mileage. What mods are done? Is it a dually?
I calculated that by hand, its a single rear axel truck, no 6 tires for me lol. mods are intake, exhaust with dpf and cat delete, egr delete, sparten programmer, and then stuff like lift, light bars, mud tires, yadda yadda yadda
wow, nice!
This is interesting. Lets do some math.
I’m going to guess/hope you got one of the $299/month lease deals. Let me know if you’re paying more.
You could have got a pretty similar vehicle in the Chevy Cruze for about $180/month lease.
299 x 36 = $10764 total vehicle cost for the Volt.
180 x 36 = $6480 total vehicle cost for the Cruze.
$4284 premium for the Volt over total term.
$1428 premium per year.
$1666 premium for 14 months (since you based your fuel costs on a 14 month term)
Your total “fuel” costs (electric + gas) were $950 for 14 months.
The Cruze shows a combined fuel economy of 30mpg. Lets knock that down to 28 since those always seem a little overly optimistic.
Gas is down right now at 3.35ish/gal for regular in WNY but lets say it’s averaged about $3.80 since you got your 2013 Volt.
(14000/28)*3.80= $1900 in fuel costs for your 14 month time period in the Cruze.
$1900 - $980 in Volt fuel costs = $920 saved.
So over the last 14 months to save $920 in fuel you paid $1666 more for a vehicle.
Assuming the same amount of miles you’ll do 36k in 3 years.
So to save $2366 in gas over 3 years you’re spending $4284 more for the vehicle.
This does not take into account helping the environment or the feel good benefit of giving the middle finger to the gas station though. From a pure numbers perspective, even with the really good lease deals Chevy gave of $299 on the Volt, it’s still a money loser. Even worse if gas prices continue to fall as predicted.
I’m sure the final numbers look worse if you factor in taxes on the more expensive vehicle and insurance on the more expensive vehicle.