WWII is the only one that really comes right into my head. But the irony there is back then the US was so non-interventionist that even though Hitler had taken over half of Europe and was exterminating Jews by the millions, we STILL didn’t declare war on Germany until the Japaneese hit us at Pearl Harbor. But today we go into Iraq on bullshit reasons when we should have stayed out. We’re horribly at picking which wars to fight so I really think we should just stop doing it.[/QUOTE]
No the problem is you dont understand the muslim religion, you can sit there and tell yourself the only reason they want to kill us is becuz we are in there land but the real truth is that for the past 20 yrs or more all that the muslims want is the caliphate again, do you even know what that is? And that word infadel that you here them saying all the time, there real definition of that is anyone who does not convert to muslim. There religions definition is either you convert or we kill you.
Let’s take a look at WWII the war you would fight in…the reason we wouldn’t enter WWII before the Japanese attacked us (similar to 9/11 somewhat, just a thought) is because there was a war before that one called the Great War, WWI, “the war to end all wars”, ring a bell? and a shit load of people died in that war, this country didn’t want a repeat again. And in that war we entered to help our allies (France, because Germany invaded their country)
And Saddam never had chemical weapons because the news said so because if we did know about it why would we tell everyone? That would be what we call a security breach because of the ways information is collected, if you figure out how people die, those people are called HUMINT sources (Human Intelligence), yes there is a CIA and they do shit like that. But I have no idea what im talking about because you know everything.
No the problem is you dont understand the muslim religion, you can sit there and tell yourself the only reason they want to kill us is becuz we are in there land but the real truth is that for the past 20 yrs or more all that the muslims want is the caliphate again, do you even know what that is? And that word infadel that you here them saying all the time, there real definition of that is anyone who does not convert to muslim. There religions definition is either you convert or we kill you.
no, the problem is YOU dont understand the muslim religion. Sure, there are radical sects of the religion that are violent, but the VAST majority of muslims are peaceful people… Your generalizations make you look pathetically simple minded. Which comes as no surprise to me.
Let’s take a look at WWII the war you would fight in…the reason we wouldn’t enter WWII before the Japanese attacked us (similar to 9/11 somewhat, just a thought) is because there was a war before that one called the Great War, WWI, “the war to end all wars”, ring a bell? and a shit load of people died in that war, this country didn’t want a repeat again. And in that war we entered to help our allies (France, because Germany invaded their country)
please spare me the history lessons.
And Saddam never had chemical weapons because the news said so because if we did know about it why would we tell everyone? That would be what we call a security breach because of the ways information is collected, if you figure out how people die, those people are called HUMINT sources (Human Intelligence), yes there is a CIA and they do shit like that. But I have no idea what im talking about because you know everything.
you’re fucking delusuional. We’re going to publicly state that we’re going to war over chemical weapons, but when we found them, we had to keep it hush hush to keep it a secret.
I was gonna point out that she didn’t give her son’s life. He gave it. But, after reading the posts after this, I don’t think I want to get involved with it.
yea the muslim religion that isnt violent the one that we liberated in Iraq, the 1000s of people that stood around and cheered when Saddam’s statue was torn down in Baghdad or the ones that want freedom and all they want is to have a family and for their kids to go to school and grow up, that muslim religion. Not the ones we are there fighting. It is pointless to argue with you though becuz you will find some negative in everything.
Im delusional? No i’m telling you what I know cuz its my job asshole. I’ll explain to you why things are classified, whether it be secret, top secret, etc. Most of the time its not the information itself that is classified its the way it was obtained that is classified. We keep things a secret so that the guys that work for the CIA, those HUMINT sources dont get compromised and get killed. We keep secrets so people dont die.
Your just as radical about your ideas as the people we are fighting, you dont listen to a thing anyone from the other side has to say you just sit there and bitch and complain about this and that.
disagreeing with with darkstar seem like a quick way to boost a post count, lol.
So what did you witness in Iraq? Because if your going off of what the media is feeding you then your going to get retarted people like Cindy Sheehans opinions reported as fact. The media has an agenda don’t forget that.
Clintion or Bush may not be perfect, but that has nothing to do with Cindy Complaining about her son volunteering for something. He wasent drafted, he could had quit at anytime reguardless of his comitment. IF he worked at say home depot this would not had happened. He knew what he was getting into at the time he enlisted.
everyone has thier own way of dealing with a loss, Cindy Sheehans just happen to be making a spectacle of herself, therefore I say Good Riddance.
D.S. I understand that voicing your opinion contributes to making America the way it is, and I don’t deny the corruption that exhists in politics I’ve seen it 1st hand, but that doesnt mean that I can’t be happy when a sideshow attraction like Cindy goes away.
you’re missing the point. American lives are being wasted on Bush’s bullshit war. He lied to congress, the international community, and the American people to get support for the war. There was NO reason to invade Iraq. So he sends the army to do his bidding, and Americans like Casey Sheehan died for no reason. That’s where the problem is. If the war wasn’t bullshit and based completly on false pretenses, then I’m sure she wouldn’t be up in arms.
Or the fact that you have nothing to say back to it.
So it’s Bush’s war? Last time I checked congress has to approve a war. Even if he lied to congress, the international community, and the American people there a thing called “the government” that consists of more then one person and its a democracy so you can change things if enough people think they are wrong. Casey Sheehan didnt die for no reason, he died for the guys fighting next to him, he died for this country the flag that flies over it, he died for his mom, his dad, his family and friends, etc. That would be why he joined the military. BUt you wouldn’t understand that because you’ve never been in the military, you have no sense of honor, duty, or pride.
When you figure out what those three are come back and tell us what you think then.
or the fact that your nonsensical ramblings had nothing to do with the topic at hand…
So it’s Bush’s war? Last time I checked congress has to approve a war. Even if he lied to congress, the international community, and the American people there a thing called “the government” that consists of more then one person and its a democracy so you can change things if enough people think they are wrong.
yeah, they approved a war that was sold to them under false pretenses. Bush lied to congress to get them to allow a war he knew was bullshit. If that’s not treason, I dont know what is. Interesting that it doesnt seem to bother you much.
Casey Sheehan didnt die for no reason, he died for the guys fighting next to him, he died for this country the flag that flies over it, he died for his mom, his dad, his family and friends, etc. That would be why he joined the military. BUt you wouldn’t understand that because you’ve never been in the military, you have no sense of honor, duty, or pride.
he died for nothing. honor, duty, pride
where’s the honor, duty, pride in dying so your commander in chief and all his oil baron buddies could become even richer?
When you figure out what those three are come back and tell us what you think then.
i’d rather have intelligence and the ability to critically think and see the world for what it is than be some flag sucking drone who pledges allegiance to a piece of cloth and hides behind the false concept of pride and duty in the face of one’s own countries mistakes. People like you are the reason that everyone else on the planet hates Americans. Keep up the good work you ignorant faggot.
And you think the members of congress had access to the same information the president did when making the decision to go to war? Or did Bush make the decision himself? Isn’t that the reason there is a congress?
Once again you would have no idea, go back to cleaning pools
[/QUOTE]i’d rather have intelligence and the ability to critically think and see the world for what it is than be some flag sucking drone who pledges allegiance to a piece of cloth and hides behind the false concept of pride and duty in the face of one’s own countries mistakes. People like you are the reason that everyone else on the planet hates Americans. Keep up the good work you ignorant faggot.[/QUOTE]
And I have nothing to say to that because its a typical I have never done anything for my country/gov’t except want something from it and bitch answer
lol your argument is starting to get pretty thin. But in this case you’re right, congress didnt have access to the same information the president did. Unfortunately, the info the president had told him that there were no WMD’s in Iraq, and he then doctored the intelligence to make it look like they did. Its like your sister told you that she got raped by a huge black dude and then you went to his house and repainted his walls red with your 12 gauge, but then you find out you sister lied.
Once again you would have no idea, go back to cleaning pools
I’ve made $18,000 in the last month and a half. Stick and stones, faggot.
And I have nothing to say to that because its a typical I have never done anything for my country/gov’t except want something from it and bitch answer
your right. I do want a lot from my government. I want it to leave me the fuck alone and stay out of my life. And since you’re OBVIOUSLY a conservative, we SHOULD be on the same wavelength here. Government is for building schools and roads. It should be the oil that lubricates society. Our government now is so overbearing and oppressive that the founding fathers would puke out their wood teeth.
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