Where are teachers making 100k? My cousin teaches in NYS and she started off with 32K with her MASTERS. Teachers are one of the least payed jobs IMO.
My grandmother was a resource teacher at Greenfield Elementary just outside saratoga she retired after 22 years 8 years ago making $85k a year
This I have to disagree with you on. Teacher’s start, depending on the school district, between $32-40,000 per year. However, lets remember that this is for less than 200 days of work. Most teacher’s retire making in the neighborhood of $75,000+ and have pensions valued at $60,000 or more, which is another reason why the state is going bankrupt.
The public sector absolutely should have caps on salaries. If the POTUS is making $450,000/year a school superintendent should not be making $150,000. They also need to do away with double dipping, where a principal retires from his job and starts collecting his pension with District A only to go get a job with District B making another $100K on top of his $125K pension.
^ Days fine, but teachers also tend to work more than an 8 hour day, but yea… I get what you’re saying.
I think just the opposite. Right now you have police officers retiring after 20 years at the age of 42 taking home six-figure pensions because they padded the last three years with OT, and they’re going to be collecting that for probably another 42 years. Now you’ve got to pay them their pension AND hire someone new to fill their position? That’s a heavy burden.
The average school day is around 6.6 hours in America. I know a number of teachers and I don’t think any of them are there 1.5 hours extra time, unless they’re coaching, in which case they get paid for that as well.
Cousin says she can have 3 hours of papers to grade quite often, usually 15 hours a week.
And how is making 32,000 a year starting off with your masters good? (Easily $40,000-50 in debt at that point)
I see both your sides. it really depends on the grade you are teaching. I would probably say that 5th & 6th grade teachers without block scheduling have the most work since they have full day of classes for 30 or so kids when produces math writing and other homeworks often. Higher levels the teachers may have more papers to go over but they also only have 3 or 4 40 minute classes a day. it all kind of evens out i guess
The United States is the on country that places ZERO value on core industrial manufacturing.
The “service economy” is dying.
At guilderland high teachers definitely start at a decent salary. You’ve got to realize also the numbers your throwing out here don’t include the 3 months that they have off. MAny work as guidance counselors for camps or administrators, some make money by teaching summer school. My A/P teacher in high school was an RN, and my engineering teacher owned a scuba diving bussiness in lake george. You are in a union and you do recieve an anual raise. My econ teacher made almost 100k by the age of 50. Again screwing with education/healthcare are things i have big problems with.
I hate to say so but soon enough shits really going to hit the fan. China is like a young america but with many more people and a wider gap in wealth. Along with this comes much more poverty and to a greater extreme. Soon enough they’re going to demand more money for their cheaper goods. They will fall into the same slum as we are. The economy is honestly a joke, and i assure you its not what you see on tv. Its like pumping up a stock to inflate the prices. Then you sell before it crashes and leave everyone else with nothing. A few people will get amazingly rich off of china. Then it’ll be a thing of the past. Honestly get into health care or get good at short selling stocks while you still can lol.
man, she must be in some shitty ass district. im looking to start at 35-40k teaching with just my undergrad. if she can’t handle correcting papers in the periods she has as prep, there is something wrong. now, im not saying teachers don’t have any hours outside of classroom, just grading papers and such should be accomplished within the school day.
You guys are arguing over pennies in a jar instead of asking about the guys who run the bank account.
Usually I am all over these types of threads, but I have never seen so much nonsense in one discussion in my life. I wouldn’t even know where to start.
Goverment spending and workers is the entire problem. Not company’s that make money while still paying big salaries(bailout company’s not included). Overpaid state workers and their bullshit workload and sectors are whats driving this country into debt. Private company’s need to make money to manage to pay their CEOs. Anything ran by the goverment does not. They can be in debt forever. The goverment will just spend more to fund them. We need our country to support US company’s. Stop fighting wars that no one wants to fight. Worry about ourself not Middle Eastern country’s. Stop paying people to be lazy and do nothing for themselves. And have a little patriotism instead of selfish money grubbing people/politicians.
Wonder how many gov’t employees could have been supported by the bail out of the private sector.
The issue of spending is indeed in the gov’t but it’s not the spending on minute workers, it’s the general managent of organizations such as the useless energy agency, military and in general finance management.
I think a 16 year old high school girl has a better mind set about finance management after taking home ec. class then our government.
Our government is spending imaginary money based on credit much in the way of people using their credit cards to the limit and just making min payments on the balance. We keep spending money we don’t have, doesn’t matter on what.
Thank you. Also if any of you have soon loose change you’ll find out that both the bush’s and the cheney’s made close to a billion dollars by arming the country to search for WMD that were definitely there. Bush was a fucking glorified retard who makes obama look bad because of the shit he left him with. IMO colin powell should have ran for president.
One of the only logical posts in this thread. Thank you. :thumbup
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It doesn’t matter who is the pretty face in the office, after 51% of the population decided that they feel like they relate to him better. He is just the flavor of the week. Some people will like the flavor some won’t, but you’re still eating at the same place.
The president plays a minor role in th system but it sure makes it easy to blame just one (the most well known) politician for all the countries faults and issues, which were there before the current face and will be there after, doesn’t matter who replaces him.
It’s like blaming a teacher for the amount of homework you have and you think the next teacher will be better. Guess what, you’re still in school, there is still a system setup for the class, and while the homework may change with a new teacher, you will sti have assignments and you will still most likely be bitching about it.
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Agreed 95%.
But the pres does have a very influential role, more than I believe you made it out to be. The power to veto and sign bills into effect as well as administer new policy.
Using your same analogy, sure the teacher is confined to the system that is in place, but they are still allowed to make their own classroom rules. Some teachers like to keep it simple and straight, and others like to push the boundaries, such as our current POTUS.
Checks and balances. President has nothing theoretically when the other 2 institutions can over ride his decisions. No one power has the final word.
One can argue that democratic president will have power with democratic congress, but when you realize that party divisions are nothing but smoke and mirrors, and neither fixes shit and only looks out in it’s own interest and re-election it stops mattering what animal pin they have on them.
No politician gives a shit, as long as he has his job.
Not even worrying about other political issues, our ECONOMY was fucked up for decades, is quite fucked up now and is brewing a huge shit storm in the near future without anyone giving a shit. Didn’t matter who was in the office, they all promise to fix it and never do.
We are going to have another great depression soon.