How not to fix a cooling problem...

(22:12:06) p…: yo… the d… has had a check engine light on for awhile
(22:12:13) R…: oh
(22:12:26) p…: symptom: car doesnt reach operating temp even after prolonged use
(22:12:29) R…: whats wrong with it
(22:12:37) p…: he thinks he added too much coolant when it was warm
(22:12:42) p…: i say thermastat is stuck open
(22:12:53) R…: meaning his temp gauge is dead or his thermostat failed open
(22:13:00) p…: failed open?
(22:13:10) R…: open failure
(22:13:19) R…: meaning it dosent close
(22:13:47) R…: you cant add too much coolant when its warm
(22:13:51) R…: only when its cold
(22:13:54) p…: yeah… but right now he is outside with a turkey baster attempting to remove coolant from his car
(22:14:04) R…: umm
(22:14:06) R…: why
(22:14:16) R…: hes gonna have a massive air pocket
(22:14:17) p…: because he thinks there is too much causing the car not to warm up
(22:14:38) R…: the colder it is the less coolant in the system cause cold fluids contract
(22:14:51) R…: if he added it warm it would be less coolant cold
(22:14:57) p…: yes… but it is cold out now and he said it is high? i dont know
(22:15:16) p…: even if it was high… if he had a working thermastat it wouldnt make that much of a diff i dont think
(22:15:16) R…: oh dear god dont tell me hes syphoning now
(22:15:29) p…: i dont know… i am not out there watching him
(22:15:37) p…: i think that is what he is probably doing though
(22:15:51) R…: how long has he been driving it
(22:16:05) R…: its like 16 degrees out
(22:16:25) p…: he said he drove it to the galleria… then got back in drove to elmwood… and didnt turn it off then back here
(22:16:27) R…: if his t stat failed it wouldent warm up ever in this weather
(22:16:36) R…: it has nothing to do with coolant level
(22:16:39) p…: the drive from here to the galleria should have had it to poerating temp
(22:16:46) p…: operating
(22:17:13) R…: its got nothing to do with overfilling coolant
(22:17:28) R…: cause if the T-stat worked that coolant would not be flowing anyway
(22:17:44) p…: yeah i know
(22:17:46) p…: that is what i said
(22:17:51) p…: should i go tell him
(22:17:55) p…: or let him find out the hard way
(22:17:56) p…: hahahha
(22:18:04) R…: na i need a chasis for my lsx swap
(22:18:13) p…: HAHAH
(22:18:54) R…: you can go tell him just to be a nice guy… Im sitting my ass down and watching the waterworks
(22:18:56) R…: literally
(22:19:35) R…: …maybe you should go tell him
(22:20:11) p…: hahahha
(22:20:33) p…: yeah i did… but he already took some out and is having the car run to see if it will go off
(22:20:34) p…: hahahha
(22:20:39) R…: oh man
(22:20:39) p…: i dont think he will get results
(22:20:47) R…: no cause its fucking 16 degrees out
(22:20:51) p…: hahahha
(22:21:05) R…: it will only work if he syphons enough out to make his cooling system non functional
(22:21:11) p…: HAHHAHAA
(22:22:48) p…: ps… he is revving the shit out of his engine now
(22:22:49) p…: HAHHAHAHA
(22:23:39) R…: you know hes gonna cook his heads
(22:23:52) p…: oh well… such is life i guess
(22:23:53) p…: HAHAHHA
(22:24:30) R…: i think you should tell him to stop because the air bubble that he has haphazardly created is in the coolant passages of his head now and he will fry his engine in due time…
(22:24:45) p…: the excess coolant is going down the sink as we speak
(22:24:53) R: oh man
(22:25:00) R: the EPA is gonna pwn his ass
(22:26:32) R…: i feel bad for that engine
(22:26:41) p…: hahahaha it is getting the ***d… treatment for sure
(22:26:42) p…: HAHHAHA
(22:27:07) R…: i can forsee it going to hybrid in the very near future for an engine replacement
(22:27:51) R…: ***d… needs to stop doing what hes doing and put that coolant he took out back in to the car
(22:28:15) R…: cause it has nothing to do with his engine not warming up
(22:28:45) R…: he is gonna continue syphoning until he has no more coolant then he will be satisfied and when it gets warm again it will overheat instantly
(22:29:25) R…: a more likely scenario is that he put too much coolant in to begin with and overloaded the system causing it to bust the T stat because of hydraulic expansion
(22:30:54) p…: hahaha maybe that happend
(22:31:14) p…: “the car is hotter now than it has been in the past few weeks but the check engine light is still on”
(22:31:16) p…: hahahaha
(22:32:07) R…: oh man
(22:32:14) R…: just tell him to stop
(22:32:17) R…: really
(22:32:24) p…: i told him that it probably wasn it
(22:32:28) R…: i cant bear to see the impending carnage
(22:32:32) p…: he said thta the car is in "operating temp"now
(22:32:43) p…: but he wants to make sure it doesnt go above
(22:32:49) p…: so the car is still running in the driveway
(22:32:50) p…: hahaha
(22:33:10) R…: yeah like running the engine with no load in 16 degree weather is gonna be an accurate assesment
(22:33:46) R…: dude I drove my car drove from panera back to my house, then idled in the lot for 10 mins and still wasent at full operating temp
(22:34:00) R…: its COLD OUT
(22:34:30) p…: yeah but you dont have a cel
(22:34:37) p…: ***d… is going nuts over this cel
(22:34:44) p…: but he still hasnt had the code pulled
(22:34:45) p…: hahahha
(22:34:56) p…: autozone does it for free
(22:35:28) R…: yeah it may be completely unrelated
(22:35:43) R…: and hes just making little air bubbles in his cooling system with a turkey baster
(22:36:19) R…: im gonna post this convo on NYSPEED
(22:36:21) R…: hahaha
(22:36:26) R…: lets see what happens

fuck tard

lololololololololololololol…sorry had too…

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: of :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Would read again. :tspry:

cliffs?

jesus christ… update?

^ The engine is off now because he is satisfied that it finally hit operating temp while idling in the driveway for all of 5 minutes in 16 degree weather…

(23:30:43) R: what is the d… doing now
(23:30:48) R…: is the engine still running
(23:32:23) p…: no the car is off in its resting place… i feel as though it is trying to heal from its wounds

The carnage may have to wait till tomorrow… Seriously though hes a really good friend of mine but if he dosent want to listen, he’s his own grown man and will have to find out the hard way…

You know, My honda temp gauge isn’t working.
Think you could have him come take a look?

But seriously it isn’t
So I replaced the sensor and now that it still isnt working im not sure what is wrong.
(themostat is working -is also new- you can feel heat difference before and post warm up on the hoses)

lol he probably dumped more coolent than the t-stat is worth

eh, pulling coolant out of the top of the radiator or overflow tank won’t cause air bubbles…

unless he drained it SUPER far, he won’t do much harm…

:lol:

X2

:word:

it would not surprise me if he drained it far enough to make it non functional…

seems ok, although it is still cold out and he hasent driven too far.

reading that conversation gave me a headache. but the parts i comprehended were hilarious.