Can a 1990 vehicle (OBDII exempt, not emissions exempt) fail inspection due to an exhaust leak?
Can somebody point me to somewhere where it specifically states this?
Yes
How bad and where is the leak? Also depends on who you take it to.
Technically yes; real world… depends.
You think I didn’t google it before posting?
That doesn’t give me the answer. I had already skimmed through that. Just because the word exhaust is in the document doesn’t mean its part of the NYSI for cars. I believe the section quoted there is for trucks. Exhaust isn’t mentioned in the inspection procedure for light vehicles, and I didn’t see it in the emissions section. They mention catalytic converter function though.
I’m not trying to argue that it’s not part of the NYSI, I just want to see the answer in writing because I’ve been unclear on this for a long time. I figured someone on here might be very well versed in it and know exactly where it’s stated.
For the record I needed a sticker and took my car to a shop that I thought was somewhat lenient. I had to remove part of the exhaust the night before before and re-used a gasket thinking a little leak wouldn’t matter for the inspection. Now I’ll have to wait for the new gasket to arrive in the mail.
Not that it matters but that gasket was only 2 weeks old, but I guess they really only crush once.
Well was the exhaust leak big enough to throw a code? I’m not saying it would fail because of the code, but perhaps if it’s throwing a code the shop was more likely to fail it? In the end I’m sure it all just depends on where you go. My wife’s car had a pretty damn good exhaust leak and still passed. Just take your car somewhere else, like Valvoline or some other quick oil change shop.
It’s a '90 with no o2 sensor downstream. But even if it did throw a code, I could just take the bulb for the CEL out.
This place is within walking distance and all the guys in the shop seem cool, but apparently the guy who inspected it is not, because…
I was able to talk them into a sticker when I went to go pick it up!
The guy who works the later shift thought it was ridiculous that they failed it.
okay. i have my inspectors license.
an exhaust leak does NOT fail inspection.
and, anything that is a '95 or older can have a check engine light on and will still pass.
OBD1 is just a visual check of your cat, egr, evap and other emission control systems. all they have to do is be there, they dont have to function, they just have to be there and hooked up like they were from factory.
^What he said. I’ve passed with half the exhaust missing, and once or twice with exhaust leaks, at more than one shop.
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I disagree, If it has a pre cat leak it will fail. 1990 still has a cat and it should be on and working.If it looks like that cat has been modded it would fail also.
Hmmmmm.
Reread what he said, the cat can be there it doesn’t have to function. Also a leak will not fail.
A precat leak will fail
It took 10 posts for somone to get it right? Technically any leak ahead of the last converter is considered a failure. Most inspectors will not fail it unless it is more than a pinhole.
Pirite, shame on you. Honda4life, are you an inspector? Not to call you out, it is just that you are spreading incorrect information. It’s all right in the regs on the machine.
All convertors that were there from the factory must be present, they can be replaced but not deleted. If you hollow one out and put it back on, it is a federal crime and you “can” be prosecuted. A hollowed or missing catalyst would have to be noticed by the inspector during visual inspection, so often it is missed or ignored.
No i am not, but i have a nys inspection book. Nothing says 95> the cat has to work properly. A leak after the cat will fail… Fuck I hope all these people get their cars fixed.
I would of passed it hands down
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Exhaust leak upstate pre 96 wont fail. if someone failed it they got it wrong
Down state where im240 (sniff test) was in effect yes. The reg book is a little confusing
Cat Has to be there and not have been tampered with.
So am I reading this right? Anything before 95 is not required to have cats?
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