It’s mentalities like this that give us the same ole same ole tax and spend NYS. You have to start somewhere.
Even if it’s only saving the NYS and Federal govt money, why is that such a bad thing?
So what, they should just keep employing people until they go out of business?
And guess what, eventually those people who want to work find jobs. Personally five of my friends have been laid off since this economic downturn started. Every one of them were back at work in three months or less.
Really Joe, your mentality is the exact reason NY is in the shape it’s in. You can’t cut jobs when times are bad, and you can’t cut jobs when times are great because no one looks to cut then. You definitely picked the right state to live in.
If the govt took the strangle hold off my neck for one second I might not have to ever layoff anyone. I love how you put blame on business for everything but without it this nation’s success wouldn’t exist.
Your childhood must have been 18 years of brainwashing. My God!
My parents aren’t really involved politically.
The whole thing is a cycle, one hand washes the other. It’s not either side’s fault. It’s macroeconomics.
Businesses hire people, tax bases go up, unemployment goes down, taxes go down.
Taxes go down, businesses hire more people, repeat.
Businesses lay people off, tax bases go down, unemployment goes up, taxes go up.
Taxes go up, businesses lay more people off, repeat.
But government in NY is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to huge at all levels.
At this point any cuts are good.
The taxes in NY keep going up but the employment has not gone up so it is time for taxes to go down and the proper way to do that is cut spending.
It seems like being one of the richest, most successful places on Earth has come back to haunt us because our polititians are still fat, dumb, and happy even though the party ended decades ago.
Joe, your argument is hypothetical and relies on the people that loose jobs not finding other employment. These are presumably trained, skilled, experienced people and have a better chance of actively looking for other work than sitting back and collecting a check.
Saving money in the government budget is a real consequence. Your argument, while valid, may not necessarily turn out to be true.
I understand the reasoning behind the overall strategy, I’d just say don’t do it now because they’d have a better chance when the economy picks back up.
Like I said though, now that I finished reading more of it, for the most part :tup:
So let me get this straight…
the people work for the county, don’t do anything, receive their pay check from the state, taxes go up to pay these people.
the people get laid off, go on gov’t benefits, in turn getting paid by the state, taxes go up.
Is this a correct assumption?
Except the part where they don’t do anything. and how the state still has to pay someone else to do their jobs, plus possible welfare.
As someone who knows three different people who work for the county, I’m sure there are plenty of positions that could be eliminated and the slack easily absorbed by the remaining people. You’re not talking about a real lean burning machine when you’re talking about county jobs.
And since when did unemployment become 100% of your salary? These people will find jobs eventually and even while they’re on unemployment the state is pay far less than it was in salary and benefits.
I think they should fire 35.72% of all government employees in Buffalo.