you got takers and your guy dont want none.we aint wastin our time even coming up that way ,if your car is so fast come see us.no money needed and you can video all you want.dont make a call out if you dont want a race.
Well I gotta agree with ya man. But in my own defense I am not in control of the car if it was me we would be runnin tonight tomorrow night and sunday night. So I apologize if this dont go down.
That is why I left it up to you 2 guys to work out the fine details I dont want people gettin pissy with me if it dont go down.
Trust me my car is not fast
Yes I made the call out because we wanted to get a good race together with cars on your level and see how it matched up. It does no good going against a mid 11 car as mine is.
I like your signature:bigok:
ive pm your guy with no response,ive pm you atleast you have got back to me.im used to this kind of stuff.i here it all the time my car is this i gotta car that.im not getting pissy i thinks it funny to be truthfull.
Hope your guy realizes cars are slower up here…Air isnt that good like down there in the south… Might run 10’s with 500 hp down south but it wont up here
No I know your not gettin pissy.
Thats what I get for stickin my neck out there for something or someone outside of myself
yeai know what ya meen,ive done that before also
Im sorry but that is because some people think anyone gives a shit about what their car runs. honestly sailor we are in south west PA, not south florida.
the fact is if you race on the street that is a choice you make and if you kill someone you should go to jail anyway so whocares about the tape. I am sorry but if you cant go to the track and run your car and say what times you run legit you are pussy and shouldnt even be racing.
as for this race deal go to FLD or PRP. you dont need a 2 step on slicks just rev limiter and go.
thats why you keep your trailor queen at the track. ill stick to the street.
Good then when you kill a family tell me how bubba’s wang feels in your ass…Bet he won’t use lube…Keep it safe at the tracks brag there more people will see you. Rather then on the news getting wiped off the streets…
U can’t take back a life when you kill someone or yourself there is no reset button.
Just an FYI for everyone…
Matt
I miss the old street scene of south west pa, itd be fun to beat you down again 
remember the roots of this website… it all started on the streets. hate me if you want, but you can’t disagree with me on that.
VW Drive . . . that was so long ago. Even Vaportrail was driving bowties back then.
I agree but we were smart about it and still went to the track man.
as for you sailor: I have a trailor queen? wait when was your car on the street last? I built my car to run in power street and I will trailor it to events a good distance away just to save me from a huge bill to have it towed home if it breaks, but I dive my car almost everyday. keep thinking is it on the street buddy. you will never make any money out there and no one cares about the dudes that have totally gutted cars that are fast unless it is a pro car. wow you totally stripped a car to nothing and it is fast…go figure
my car was on the street last summer. i ripped it apart again. keep your “street car” for the track then. ill setup and run my street car for on the street. dont come off as being better b/c your high and mighty and dont street race. iirc, you use to street race, and you know what my tail lights look like. you want the rematch when im done, ill be out on the streets–where street cars run.
last time i checked, no where i have raced puts a bystander or innocent motorist at harm. only the people driving–which is same way it is on the track.
shit happens at the track more then in a street race, in fact EVERYWHERE i have ever street raced at not once was there any accidents or problems…im sorry to say i cant say the same about the track, i always get to see some dude stuff it into the wall or put it on it’s lid…i street race and track race but they are 2 diff animals…just my opinion…to each there own, so what if people gut there cars to nothing, thats free e.t …always someone crying about somthing
p.s anyone know who won the kots at prp today?
wow you beat me 4 years ago on stock internals. I am not knocking your car but do you see the PRL car out racing on the street? Nope it is a street car but is build to do something specific. Yes I used to street race when I was 18 and I have gotten into some as of the last few years but not like I used to and I definatly dont see the reason for it. we have a track 30 minutes from us, use it.
Last time I checked I watched to flag cars a few years ago with traffic just goin by then you lining the cars up so sorry that is unsafe and did put others at risk so do not act high and mighty to me either.
I am just tired of goin to hang out and people saying blah blah I am faster than you, you are FWD, you dont stand a chance. Not one of those people would ever fit into a class with the gutted cut up buckets they have not to mention pass tech at even a shitty track like PRP. yes a 2500lb F body or mustang will be fast, but it wont be safe for the most part and it certainly wont race anywhere but out in the sticks with some other hillbilly for some beer money.
Next NDRA race you attend go see some of the domestic guys there. those unlimited street guys still have more of a street car than most of the so called “fast” stuff around here and they are goin 8.7’s with a real program and professionalism. they still have headliners and carpet and didnt cut the trunk floor out to save weight
werent you street racing as recent as early this summer???
examples of cars that are closer to street cars than most of the “fast” stuff around here
this is a true street car with carpet and headliner with 2 seats went 8.9:
http://www.nopiforums.com/nopigallery/photo.php?photo=1180298141
radial tires and low 8’s. notice the plate on it and still not cut up:
http://www.nopiforums.com/nopigallery/photo.php?photo=1178333569
radials again and low 8’s
http://www.nopiforums.com/nopigallery/photo.php?photo=1180279511
all cars listed have to have 2 seats and a headline and carpet just like turbo street but with 6-8 cylinder cars.
http://ndra.nopi.com/eqraces/dsp_qorder.cfm?vshowid=94&vclassid=2A-Unlimited%20Street
like I said I have raced a few times in the last few years, but I certainly dont think it is be all end all and it is really not worth it at all.
man mid 8’s following rules:
1.3>UNLIMITED STREET:
Engine Diaper or Engine Pan mandatory on all forced induction cars 9.59 and quicker. SFI approved 38.1
head and neck restraint system required for all 9.59 and quicker cars.
•SPONSOR DECALS: All racers must have series and or class sponsor decals as required by NDRA.
Competitors can utilize a competing sponsor product / logo.
• CLASS: The class designation (U/S) must be on the right side and the front window in 3-inch tall letters.
• NUMBERS: Car numbers must be on the right side window in 6-inch tall numbers, and the front windshield
in 3 inch tall numbers.
• BODY: Stock import or domestic compact car or truck body must be retained. Lightweight parts limited to
hood and ground effects only. Fenders can’t be modified in any way. Quarter panels can be trimmed
outside 1.5” from wheel well, to allow for a larger tires. Due to most sunroofs not being safety glass,
sunroof plugs allowed. Cutting or drilling of body or chassis is limited to front bumper support to allow for
installation of turbo intercooler, and rear bumper support may be removed. Removal of other components
for purpose of lightening vehicle prohibited. Chop tops not allowed. Lexan or Plexiglas windows are
prohibited. No tape can be used to join/cover body seams. Body or paint damage incurred at that event can
be fixed by any means for remainder of the event.
• INTERIOR: Door panels, dash, headliner and carpet must remain in place. Passenger seat and back seat
plus all interior trim from driver’s seat back can be removed. Doors must work from inside and outside of
vehicle. Windows and door switches must work and be located as designed by manufacturer. Cars will be
re-inspected on the return road any cars found missing required components shall be disqualified. Stock
steering column and turn signals most be retained.
• ENGINE: Reserved for 3 rotors, 6 cylinder entries equipped with a turbocharger, superchargers, a nitrous
oxide system for a total of up to two power adders. 8 cylinder entries are allowed a supercharger, turbo, or
a nitrous oxide system as a single power adder. Engine must be the some make as vehicle racing. Bolt on
modifications only. Aftermarket cams, headwork, valves, cam gears and other internal modifications
allowed. Motor-swaps allowed. Approved aftermarket blocks allowed. No air-cooled entries. Wet sump oil
systems allowed for competition, no dry sumps of any kind allowed for the oiling system. Any cast iron
Ford type 302W/351W 8.2-inch, 8.7-inch, 9.2-inch, or 9.5-inch deck block permitted. Any cast iron or cast
aluminum 4.6L/5.4L based engine block permitted. Block must maintain Ford O.E.M. bore spacing, deck
heights, and crankshaft spacing for engine type used. Deck spacers (extensions) prohibited.
Max displacement for 6 cyl is 3.8L, and 360CI for 8 cyl.
4.6/5.4L Modular engines may deduct 50 lbs. for supercharged applications.
• TURBOCHARGERS:
6 Cylinder cars: 3150 lbs and lighter single 78mm/twin 52mm max
3151 lbs and heavier single 88mm/twin 58mm max
8 Cylinder cars: 4.6l mod motor: 3,400lbs min weight single 80mm/twin 67mm max
8 Cylinder cars: 311ci and smaller: 3,400lbs. min weight single 80mm/twin 67mm max
• SUPERCHARGERS: Inlet diameter – external OD 4” maximum, discharge diameter – external
diameter 3” maximum, housing diameter (greatest external diameter of housing not to include
discharge) – 10” maximum, impeller exducer diameter (tip-to-tip) – 6.6” inches, impeller inducer
diameter – 4.0” inches. Supercharger compressor wheel must be constructed of cast or billet
aluminum and must be accepted for the specified supercharger unit. Exotic material wheels
prohibited. Pushrod-based engines must use standard rotation (non-reverse) supercharger, with
supercharger inlet mounted rearward facing.
Modular-based engine may use reverse rotation supercharger.
Blower crankshaft pulley 8” maximum diameter (measured at the outside diameter of the ribs)
standard width, belt system required.
50lb weight penalty for Cog style belts.
Injection of any liquid, gas, or any other substance into the supercharger housing prohibited.
Supercharged 311ci. Min. weight – 3,200 lbs
Supercharged 360ci. Min. weight – 3,350 lbs
• APPROVED SUPERCHARGERS:
VORTECH A, B, S, YS, YSi, JT, & T TRIM, V24-YSi
ATI Procharger p600, D-1, d-1sc, d-1r
ATI Procharger p1sc, P1SC-2, p1sc-h
ATI Procharger f1, F1R, F1C-5.0
Paxton SN, vr4, NOVI 1000, 2000
POWERDYNE BD-9, BD-10, BD-11, XB-1A
• APPROVED GEAR RATIOS:
Vortech V-1 A, B, S, T, JT, YS, YSi Trim 3.45:1
Vortech V-2 S Trim 3.60:1
Vortech V24-YSi trim 4.25:1
ATI Procharger P1SC, P1SC-2, P1SC-H, D1SC 4.10:1
ATI Procharger D1, D1R 4.44:1
ATI Procharger F1, F1R, F1C-5.0 5.00:1
Paxton Novi 1000, 2000 3.54:1 or 3.50:1
• INTERCOOLERS: Air to Air and Air to Liquid intercoolers allowed. All intercooler components
must remain under hood. No components for the intercooler allowed inside of the cars.
Turbocharged 8 Cylinder cars not permitted to run liquid Aftercoolers/Intercoolers, air to air only.
100lb weight break with no Aftercooler/Intercooler 8 cylinder cars.
100lb weight penalty for Liquid Aftercooler/Intercooler 8 cylinder cars.
• CYLINDER HEADS: Must be commercially available, produced in runs of 500 or more. No billet
cylinder heads. Any internal modification permitted. Only commercially available cast aluminum
or cast iron, two-valve per cylinder heads permitted for 302/351W style heads.
Only commercially available cast aluminum or cast iron, overhead valve single spark plug per
cylinder design permitted for 4.6/5.4 style heads.
Standard bolt-pattern only for cylinder heads with a maximum of 10 head fasteners per side in
Ford O.E.M. locations.
Cylinder heads must maintain original production valve angles + or – 2 degrees.
Welding/Epoxy of heads prohibited, welding/epoxy for securing pushrod sleeves prohibited.
Intake port plates prohibited, exhaust port plates maximum thickness .500-inch permitted. Intake
port adapters permitted on 5.4L applications to use accepted 4.6L intake manifolds.
• APPROVED HEADS:
Ford OEM 4.6, 5.0, 5.4, 5.8 Cast Iron and Aluminum Heads
FRPP GT-40/GT-40P/GT-40X, GT-40Y Cast Iron and Aluminum Heads
FRPP 4.6 2V & 4V
FRPP Z304 Cylinder Head PN# M-6049-Z304
Edelbrock Performer & Performer RPM PN# 60329, 60359,
60279,60229,60259,60269
Edelbrock Victor Jr. A/C & CNC PN# 7716, 61269, 61279
Trick Flow Twisted Wedge & Track Heat, Non-R
Brodix ST 5.0 Aluminum, PN# ST 5.0, ST 5.0R
Brodix TI & T1X
Holley 5.0, PN# 300-573, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 579
World Products Roush 180 & Windsor Jr, PN# 53030, 23030
World Products Roush 200 & Windsor Sr, PN# 53040
Dart Pro 1 170cc & 195cc as-cast; 215cc & 225cc CNC
Air Flow Research 165, 185, 205, 225
Canfield PN# 18-350, 20-450, 20-475
Note: Stock factory OEM heads are those cylinder heads that are factory production line installed
on production vehicles as recognized by NHRA.
• CAMSHAFTS: 6 Cyl. engines: no restrictions at this time. 8 Cyl. engines: 5.0 Engines - .550
Maximum lift 4.6 2V Engines - .550 Maximum lift 4.6 3V Engines - .550 Maximum lift 4.6 4V Engines
- .520 Maximum lift
•INDUCTION SYSTEMS: Any commercially available induction may be used, but stock
configuration must be retained. Ex: Fuel injected entries must remain fuel injected, with the same
type of injection used as delivered stock. Example: if the car is delivered from the factory in a
single throttle body configuration it must remain as a single throttle body. Any accepted fuel
injection engine control system permitted.
Only mass-produced, commercially available throttle bodies permitted. Maximum throttle body
size is 2.952” (75mm) for 5.0 & 4.6 2V applications. 4.6 4-valve may use aftermarket, commercially
available, bolt-on, throttle body. Throttle bodies are allowed to be mounted to carburetor
mounting flange directly, or with an adapter/spacer. Maximum size of mass air sensor allowed –
3.150” (80mm), but not required
Any size/type fuel injector permitted. Maximum of 8 fuel injectors for 8 Cyl cars, 6 fuel injectors for
6 Cyl cars located in stock location.
APPROVED INTAKE MANIFOLDS, PART NUMBERS:
Ford OEM/SVT 4.6, 5.0, 5.4, 5.8 EFI Intake – Upper & Lower
FRPP GT-40 Upper & Lower, PN# M 6001 A50
FRPP 4.6 2V, 4V Aftermarket Intake – Package, PN# M 9424 E46, M 9424 T46
Edelbrock Performer, RPM, RPM II – Upper & Lower, PN# 3821, 7126, 7123
Trick Flow Street Heat, Track Heat – Upper & Lower, PN# 51500001, 51500002
Trick Flow 351W EFI Intake – Upper & Lower, PN# 51500004, 515B0005
Holley SysteMax – Upper & Lower, PN# 300-72
Saleen/Vortech – Upper & Lower
Edelbrock Victor 5.0 – NITROUS ONLY – Upper & Lower, PN# 2945
Trick Flow “R” – NITROUS ONLY – Upper & Lower, PN# 51500003
Edelbrock Victor 5.8 – NITROUS ONLY – Upper & Lower, PN# 3887
Edelbrock Victor Jr. & Super Victor – NITROUS ONLY -(carb style, 8.2. 9.5.deck)
Canfield Carb Intake – NITROUS ONLY Hamilton-Clark 4.6 Aftermarket Intake
Reicard Racing 4.6L 2 valve Sheet Metal intake manifold
Sullivan Modular 4.6L 4-BBL, 5.4L-4-BBL Intake Manifolds – NITROUS ONLY
• NITROUS: Bottles must be stamped 1800-psi minimum. Bottles must be mounted directly to the
body, utilizing all mounting points. Electrical bottle heaters allowed. NOTE: no external flame
heating of bottle allowed. Blow down tube is required if bottle is inside passenger compartment.
Entries utilizing EFI-style manifold are permitted any multi-stage nitrous system, including dualstage
plates and/or dual-stage foggers used in combination. Entries utilizing carb-style manifold,
limited to single stage fogger (maximum one nozzle per cylinder) or dual-stage nitrous plate(s).
Nitrous oxide entries restricted to two (1) 10-lb nitrous bottles or one 15-lb nitrous bottle. Nitrous
supply line may be any size. Push systems prohibited.
Nitrous Oxide 311 ci Min. weight – 2,700 lbs
Nitrous Oxide 360 ci Min. weight – 2,900 lbs
•EXHAUST SYSTEM: NDRA does not require mufflers for racing however, check with track, as
some tracks have a noise ordinance, which requires a muffler for Saturday racing. Catalytic
converters may be removed.
•DRIVE TRAIN: RWD entries only. Stock drive train configuration required. Stock style rear end
must be used. *Rear ends: O.E. style bolt in differential casing allowed. No aftermarket substitutes
allowed. Examples (8.8”, 9”, or 12 bolt). If vehicle comes stock with I.R.S., vehicle must stay that
way for competition.
• TRANSMISSION: OEM transmissions or replicas of OEM transmissions that use planetary gears
allowed, but no purpose built transmissions allowed. Automatic transmissions must be mated to
torque converters, not clutches. Manual transmissions allowed for Sport Compact cars. Scattershield
required if 11.99 or quicker. See section 4.15 for additional details. Transmission to engine
adaptors permitted. Trans-Brakes allowed. Lock-up transmissions/torque converters permitted.
Automatic Transmissions approved for competition use: Ford AOD, 5R55S, AOD-E, 4R70W, C4,
and C6. GM Turbo 350, 400, Powerglide, and 700R4.
• CLUTCH/FLYWHEEL AND FLYWHEEL SHIELD: After market clutch and flywheel shield required
if car is running 11.99 or quicker. See section 4:13/4:16.
• CHASSIS: Full stock chassis (Full stock floor pan) required. A roll bar is mandatory in all cars
running 11.99 or quicker and in convertibles running 13.99 or quicker. Any vehicle equipped with
a roll bar must be equipped with a padded head protector to be placed behind the driver’s head
mounted in such a way so as to help minimize the risk of whiplash. The cage or roll bar must also
be fitted with padding in any area where it may come in contact with the driver’s helmet. Padding
with ¼ inch compression or padding meeting SFI Spec 45.1 padding or better shall be used. No
other forms of padding will be accepted.
• SUSPENSION: Must use one shock per wheel, or retain original style suspension. Coil-over
shocks allowed. No wheelie bars allowed. Stock shock towers must remain completely intact front
and rear. Roll bar may be attached to shock towers. Stock pieces may be strengthened. REAR:
Entire rear sub frame structure must remain intact. The entire rear portion of the strut mount must
also remain intact. Lower control arm alterations limited to lengthening or strengthening. Back
half conversions not permitted.
• WHEELBASE: Stock wheelbase must be retained.
• IGNITION SYSTEM: Aftermarket crank triggers, two-step rev limiters, ignition amplifiers, spark
computers or dynamically adjustable engine management systems and piggyback engine
management systems are allowed. Stand-alone systems allowed.
• LIGHTS/STREET EQUIPMENT: Headlights, turn signals, horn, and taillights must be retained in
stock condition. One headlight can be removed for air induction.
• BRAKES: All cars must have four working hydraulic brakes, and in good working order.
• COOLING SYSTEM: Electric water pumps allowed. Electric fans allowed. Must use
overflow/catch can 1-pint minimum. NOT be mounted in front of tires or with overflow line pointed
at tires.
• TIRES/WHEELS: Max tire size is 28/10.5 non W tires for slicks.
Max tire size is 28/10.5 for DOT Street tires
Max tire size is 315/60/15 for drag radials.
Supercharged cars allowed Slicks
Single turbo cars allowed DOT Approved Tires
Twin Turbo cars allowed Drag Radials only
Cars running 11.99 or quicker must have metal valve stems. Tubes permitted. NOTE: “absolutely”
no mini spare tires or non-speed rated tires may be used.
• FUEL: Gasoline only. No VP 56, or VP Import allowed in class. Fuel cells allowed, fuel cells must
be covered or separated from the drivers compartment, but can not be in the engine compartment.
• DRIVERS LICENSE: State, or Federal, or International drivers license mandatory.
• COMPETITION LICENSE: A valid competition license mandatory for cars running 9.99 and
quicker at a NHRA track and 9.49 and quicker at a IHRA track. (no exceptions!)
• DRIVERS SAFETY EQUIPMENT: Any vehicle equipped with a roll cage or roll bar must be
equipped with a padded head protector to be placed behind the driver’s head mounted in such a
way so as to help minimize the risk of whiplash. The cage or roll bar must also be fitted with
padding in any area where it may come in contact with the driver’s helmet. Padding with ¼ inch
compression or padding meeting SFI Spec 45.1 padding or better shall be used. No other forms of
padding will be accepted.
• FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS: Mandatory on all Pro cars, and Sportsman cars 9.59 and
quicker. System must be SFI 17.1 approved for competition use.
• HELMETS: Drivers of cars 13.99 or quicker must use a helmet that is Snell 95, 2000 SFI 31.1,
31.2, 41.1 or 41.2 spec. Any helmet that is modified in any way other than paint jobs shall be
deemed unsafe and not suited for competition. Drivers must be wearing their helmet prior to
entering the burnout area. The NDRA requires the use of Full Face Helmets and strongly
recommends the use of the proper visor as well. A 38.1 head and neck restraint system required
for all 9.59 and quicker cars.
• CLOTHING: 10.00-11.99: Drivers must wear jacket meeting SFI 3.2A/1.
• SEAT BELTS: All cars that require a roll bar must use a 5-point SFI 16.1 driver restraint system
equipped with a quick release system. Belts must be mounted to the frame or cross member or in
a reinforced mounting point so that all connections are in a direct line with the direction of the
pull. Cars requiring a SFI 16.1 drivers restraint system must have the belts updated 2 years from
the dates stamped on the SFI belt tags. Cars using OEM type seats may route the crotch strap in
front of the seat rather than through a hole in the base cushion.
• PARACHUTES: Required for all cars exceeding 150 mph. Tech inspectors may inspect parachute
for damage or wear at our discretion. Parachutes must be solidly mounted to frame and release
housing must be no more than 12” from parachute pack and must be mounted in such a way to
ensure smooth operation without failure. NOTE: any car running in excess of 150 MPH must pull
the chute! If the driver doesn’t pull the chute the run maybe DQ’d. If you’re not sure pull the chute
anyway!
sorry but after seeing those cars run this year the local gutted stuff doesnt impress me not to mention all the trash talking those dudes do about how fast their car is