Me new Nest Thermostat...

I would consider 1…but since I would have to consider 6, it becomes much less appealing.

Might interest some people

https://www.ecobee.com/

I travel for work a lot and I love this. Automatically goes into away mode when I’m gone and as I’m on my way home, I turn it on from my phone and come home to a warm/cool house :slight_smile: No more running the heat/AC on full blast for a week or 2 at a time while I’m out of town because I forgot to shut it off.

I don’t have much experience with boiler controls but I’m guessing not compatible as well since he put a simpler stat in and it worked fine. That pretty much rules out the wiring. I’ve seen some pretty beat thermostat wire work before.

It’s interesting to see your consumption. This is mine from the past few days. Tuesday was really nice out!

Nest now has a camera you can hook up…skynet? lol

I enjoy people are telling someone to finance 70k+ on a RS7 but $200 on a Nest is outrageous and this actually saves you money

NYSPEED Investors are people driving 20 year old civics and living at home.

You know what I just thought about… So Nest saves money by learning the temperature swings in your home/ when you come and go?

well can it predict the weather too because just because it memorized when you come and go why would that save money when weather constantly changes… Colder it is outside the more heat dissipates, so how could it still save you money? How can it really memorize the temps in your home when the weather outside effects that, and constantly changes… I’d rather have the lambo my friend…

the only way I think it could possibly save energy is if it just memorizes how much gas it uses(runtime) and calculates if its better to be set at a constant set point(temp) or to be at a lower temp while away and then turn back to comfortable temp when home owner is back home.

but either way the greater the difference in temperature (inside compared to outside) the greater heat transfer. So setting the temp back should technically cause the difference in temperature to be a little less = less heat transferred to outside = less gas… But then when you get home longer runtime to get back to temp… I guess only nest knows what’s best.

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Lifehacker says they don’t save you money if you already have a programmable T-stat. What Can a Smart Thermostat Do that Mine Can’t Already Do? | Lifehacker

An object in motion tends to stay in motion. Heat isn’t much different, when I had a flaking gas valve and really wanky heat cycles this became painfully evident. Surely nest accounts for the temp differential…no? I have to imagine just because you’re gone the nest doesn’t stop calling for heat entirely till it expects you back.

The article actually says this

Do you already have a programmable thermostat, or are you the source of the problem? Think about your own usage patterns. The EPA’s Energy Star program concluded that homes with programmable or smart thermostats can save up to $180 per year on heating and cooling, which is a sizable chunk of change. Still, those same savings can be achieved with a more affordable programmable thermostat. If you already have one, a smart thermostat won’t save you too much more money, aside from showing you what you can optimize to save a few bucks here or there. Similarly, if you’re the type who religiously turns the thermostat off when you leave the house, and then turn it back when you come home, you may be able to get away with a more affordable programmable thermostat instead. You’ll get all the energy savings, without the hassle of adjusting it yourself every day.
However, if you don’t have a programmable model, or if you’re the forgetful type who’ll leave the AC or heater running all day even if you’re not at home, a smart thermostat will really save you some money. The learning models can take all of the hassle out of managing your home’s temperature, so you can just go about your daily business and let the climate in your house take care of itself. All you have to know is that it’ll be comfortable whenever you’re there.
Also, if you’re the type who loves data and loves tweaking systems to improve them, a smart thermostat will definitely save you money on your energy bill. You can obsessively check your thermostat’s mobile app to see how much money you’re saving or energy you’re actively using, and use the webapps to plot out how much more you can save if you adjust the temperature by a few degrees here or there. When Jason Chen cut his energy bill by a third, he used data to do it, and smart thermostats can give you a lot of the data

So realistically it says you CAN save money just depends on how dialed in your current programmable thermostat is

You’re right, my post made it seem like there’s no saving at all, but remember the EPA Estimates UP TO $180 a year savings, meaning in the worst case scenario it can save that much.

I have an old furnace in my house(80%'er) and I didn’t even switch it out yet. I do plan to next year to get a 95%'er, probably just single stage, no ECM motors because when they fail they’re like $500 for my company’s cost lol, once those start to fail you lose all the savings you were trying to achieve with a high repair bill.

It’s a toy, we’ve already established that. But here’s a assessment by someone who dug into it:

Investing in a smart thermostat is worth about $1,200 over 10 years for the average U.S. household in the average U.S. climate. The investment doesn’t pay for itself until halfway through the second year because the Nest Thermostat is pretty expensive at $250 per unit. This means that the nest probably is a shakier investment if you rent or aren’t sure where you’ll be living in the next few years, but then again, you might be able to take it with you or, in the case of homeowners, it might actually be a selling point (as noted in comments below).

I’ll go into the methodology below…

It does tell you how long it’s going to run to reach the temp you want FYI.

Update coming too. Mine hasn’t done it yet because it’s been running.

… The last update comes to the thermostat’s auto-scheduling feature. Here, Nest says the updated code will help the thermostat adapt to changes in the comings and goings of people in your household more nimbly. The benefit, Nest claims, is a 6 percent saving to your heating and cooling bill.

They’re on sale for $199 for black friday

this…

if anyone has verizon wireless and wants one of these let me know :slight_smile:

you guys may be interested in this…

http://lyric.honeywell.com/thermostat/

i have the lyric, i like it.

Why?

The house I’m moving into has one. I’ll have to figure out how to set it up.

5min install :tup:

Good to go