Meatheads talking about eachother's meat and increasing the size of their meat. MEAT.

The effects that both of you noted are due to the excess amount of caffeine and other ‘energy sources’ in the product. It’s just a powdered energy drink, and the strength gains that people report on it are due to 3 things-

1)Caffeine and other energy stimulants
2)Creatine (big one)
3)Placebo (big one).

If someone likes the effects that they feel from a NO product, it’s easily (and more cheaply) reproduced with a caffiene source and creatine.