mom wants a bmw...

So then Japanese car fans are more like Windows fans? They refuse to acknowledge a better end product when they see one?

More expensive, yes, I will agree in some instances. The other two, not so much.

http://www.edmunds.com/finder/car-finder-results.html?finder_q=type:Sedan;#finder_q=type%3ASedan%3Bmake%3ABMW%3Bmake%3AInfiniti%3Bmake%3ALexus%3B

Interesting… The 5-series and 3-series have a lower base MSRP than your beloved Infiniti and most Lexus models. The 3-series has an MSRP of $2300 over the Infiniti G sedan, and $1305 over the Lexus IS250. 5-series is $800 below your M-sedan, with significantly better gas mileage as well.

On the high end of things, the Lexus LS600h is $15k more than the hybrid 7-series, and Infiniti simply does not have a car to compete on that scale.

The Lexus IS-F MSRP is higher than the M3 MSRP as well, and you’re not getting nearly as much car.

YOTA: Just tell your mom to go with the 5-series line. /thread lol