what about J&L Performance on walden?
they did some work on my 3400 for me.
take it to BRK on walden Brian used to work at napa and can do a good job as well
ditto.
NA3OO - the only reason I mentioned pick your parts is becaue the wall finish & ringstyle choices are pretty important and very much app specific. :tup:
As far as assembling yourself, you pretty much have a place fo the machin work (bore, hone, line bore, any pressed bearings, magna flux & hot tank, etc) - then you grab a factory manual for clearance & tq specs.
YOU TAKE YOUR TIME.
You make sure everything is clean, clearanced properly, and torqued properly.
IDK about your specific engine, but generally You’ll need feeler gauges, calipers, taps (to chase / clean bolt holes), GOOD (read: not HF) tq wrenches, etc. Nothing too out of the ordinary - app dependant.
I just think (from your internet personna) that you’d rather enjoy being able to say you built your engine.
But also that you can have the piece of mind in knowing that the entire thing is up to snuff.
$0.02
Either way, GL.
And, oh, BTW - Klispies is one of the few places that I’ve heard very few complaints about.
Also, ask Carnut where he used to have work done, I forget the name.
Lastly - I remember a few threads by Innovative that referenced them doing assembly work.
I also recommend J&L performance.They do great work.
Stop wasting your time and just buy a motor from Kyle @ IPP if you’re not going to assemble it yourself. http://www.importpartspro.com/
I wouldn’t trust anyone who doesn’t specialize in these motors to put one together…
Talk to turbociv about klispies if you want to hear nothing BUT complaints. Its been a couple years now but they did some shitty work his first few honda motors…
I’m gonna do some price shopping tomorrow and call most of the places mentioned in here…thanks for the suggestions so far guys.
I’m debating taking on the assembly myself depending on how much money i can save, i’m sure i can learn…but it all depends on how much i value peace of mind vs. a bit of extra money in my pocket…that’s still in the air i guess as more and more of you seem to think it wouldn’t be all that difficult to look up, learn, and do on my own…
I thought you went to Jeff to do your build though…or did your car come with the motor already built? I know we talked about it before…but i forgot. And i’m fairly positive you said you were running the Weisco’s too…but are you still on stock rods?
you’re going to save over a grand easily by doing it yourself
CHRIST…a place can justify charging a grand just to bolt together pistons, rods and a crank(i know it’s a bit more complicated than that…but not that much)? I watched BACON do his…and it definitely didn’t seem time consuming/complicated enough to be worth that much money…DIY here i come.
Looks like i’ll be just needing a shop to tank the block and bore it a bit for the new, slightly bigger pistons…
BEFORE you decide, grab a factory manual (if avail) or a Haynes or similar (although you should already have one) and read through the general process. Either way you go, know whats involved.
Going slightly OT in my own thread, sorry…but:
Irony, sweet irony…
no lol… thats including the bore and hot tanking etc etc lol
it was about 1400-1600 for my honda for me to get new bearings, arp main studs, new rings, block bored, hot tanked, painted, decking, assemble everything. there was a lot of machine work involved
It’ll less then a G for just assembly… but maybe close. Call around.
Keep in mind that you will be buying (or borrowing) special tools to do this… all the tools for your specific motor should be referenced either in your manuals or on your forums.
Also you may still need your wrist pins pressed (IDK what you have), your rings filed / fitted, etc.
oh and Nik, i do have the full 1200 +/- page nissan shop manual…bought it on disc, and got my money’s worth of expensive Canisuis College tuition by RAPING their printers in 50 page intervals until i had it all printed up, and now organized in chapters over 5 different thick binders…
But i haven’t actually sat down to look through it and read up on the block assembly yet…it’s on my to-do list…still a lot of homework for me to do before i attempt to get my hands dirty. Taking my time, taking baby steps…I dont need this car to run immediately (though i’d like it to) so i’m not gonna rush into things unless i’ve checked out every option thoroughly…
+karma
You’ll be fine.
I’ve assembled 4 of my own motors in my garage and none have yet had any related problems. Of course i’ve done another half dozen, but that was ~10 yrs ago when i was getting paid to do so.
No, Jeff didn’t build my motor. That was an Apollo Racing shop in Chicago… I’d have to check the receipt because it was 5 years ago. But I know they had assembled many VG30DETT long blocks for Ultimate Z.
I have Weisco pistons but stock rods. The pistons are the only non-forged component in the motor but are still good for high HP. Stock rods are forged and good to 800-ish wheel so no real need to buy those.
Call Kyle tomorrow and ask him what he would charge if you shipped him all the parts, had him assemble what you want then ship it back. I haven’t dealt with him since he was at SGP, but he’s still the #1 guy on TTNET.
That or do it yourself. But at some point you have to accept the fact that you drive a Z… not an FBod, Mustang or DSM where local knowledge and shop options are everywhere. And the “cheap way” will never work out well with these cars.
If you’re really that uncomfortable spend the money and have someone who is experienced with these motors do the work. I wouldn’t trust any of the local shops who don’t specialize in this motor. Let them stick to what they know.
Take your time, I like the rent… 