Federal safety regulators warned owners of more than 300,000 Hondas and Acuras that they should not drive their cars until their Takata airbags are replaced. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said new tests show these airbags have a much higher risk of exploding and killing a driver or passenger. The risk for these particular cars is now greater than 50%, according to the agency. Other Takata airbags have less than a 1% chance of exploding.
So with these models if your airbag goes off you have worse than a coin flip chance of having it explode and shred your face/neck with shrapnel.
There’s a big difference between the majority of people who are waiting on a replacement that have less than a 1% chance of the airbag exploding and shotgun blasting them with shrapnel in the face and this recent batch that showed it’s up to a 50/50 chance.
I’m waiting on one for my CC too. That’s probably even less than a 1% chance though because it’s Takata airbag was made by Takata Germany. All the problem ones have come from Takata Mexico, because the Mexico plant wasn’t properly storing the propellant and it was absorbing a lot of moisture. That moisture rusts the enclosure which fails and causes the blast of shrapnel when the airbag deploys. If I found out tomorrow my car had a 50% chance of killing me in minor crash that deployed the airbag I’d be at the VW dealer tomorrow demanding a rental car.
I work for Lia Honda as an advisor, this airbag dilemma is shit. Only issues with the bags were in the south due to how hot it gets outside. That bags were over pressurizing and causing them to not split the steering wheel cover/dash cover but rather just blow them out. Honda/Acura’s 07 and newer are not affected but however are receiving the latest product update. The news is truly screwing people like my self over and over. The letter people are getting in the mail are of the same content as the letters from the other Honda/Acura that could over pressurize. This is causing so much bs at the dealer level. I also love dealing with the customer- “I feel unsafe driv My my car” Me- “okay what year and miles on your car?” C- “idk 200k ish”… In my head I’m thinking you drove the circumference of the earth 8 times and now you feel unsafe… Insert face palm. #endrant
A series of mistakes by workers in handling ammonium nitrate at the La Grange, Georgia and Mexico plants between 2000 and 2002 left the explosive compound exposed to dangerous levels of humidity, Takata told regulators in the United States and Japan.
Takata says inflators could be susceptible to rupture if exposed to moisture or extreme humidity. The defect in Law’s airbag in the Malaysian accident was caused by humid conditions at the Georgia plant, Takata and Honda said.
^ When they say “Law’s airbag” they’re referring to Law Suk Leh, a pregnant woman killed by a severe puncture wound to the neck when her defective Takata airbag went off like a fragmentation grenade. This latest testing by the NHTSA showing a 50% chance of shrapnel is a big deal.
[QUOTE=JayS;4670832]^ The fact that Lia is trying to blame this on heat makes me never want to buy a car there.
It has nothing to do with heat and everything to do with humidity and corrosion.
^ When they say “Law’s airbag” they’re referring to Law Suk Leh, a pregnant woman killed by a severe puncture wound to the neck when her defective Takata airbag went off like a fragmentation grenade. This latest testing by the NHTSA showing a 50% chance of shrapnel is a big deal.[/QUOTE
Lia is not saying heat at, clearly your out of contex. This is per Honda. And you say 50% again you are wrong there. Less than 1% of the Honda are effected, to be accurate. It’s only 313000 cars from Honda /Acura produced from 2001-2003. which as of today from the latest info from Honda NA. Over 70% of those are already fixed. You can research all you want but when you have access to In.honda.com with the actual facts, please stop your knee jerking.
300k+ cars with a 50% chance of having a grenade in the steering wheel is a pretty big problem.
And Honda isn’t saying it’s heat and pressure, even they have admitted to the NHTSA it’s a problem with corrosion due to humidity. So if Lia is spewing some BS about it just being a problem with heat in the south they’ve either intentionally mislead people or grossly misunderstood Honda’s position.
The air bag inflators in these particular vehicles contain a manufacturing defect which greatly increases the potential for dangerous rupture when a crash causes the air bag to deploy. Ruptures are far more likely in inflators in vehicles that have spent significant periods of time in areas of high absolute humidity—particularly Florida, Texas, other parts of the Gulf Coast, and Southern California. Testing of the inflators from these vehicles show rupture rates as high as 50 percent in a laboratory setting.
What’s especially shitty about this is there are 70 million Takata airbags under recall that people have no idea now if they can believe the less than 1% chance of failure that was originally estimated. This subset that they bumped to a 50% chance only had a 1% chance a week ago before the results of this additional testing was done.
In April 2013, Takata filed a defect report stating that certain passenger side airbag modulesmay rupture as a result of manufacturing errors that are aggravated by exposure to hot andhumid environments.• In June 2014, NHTSA asked several manufacturers to recall vehicles with Takata airbags inhot and humid regions because of airbag ruptures observed in Florida and Puerto Rico.• In May 2015, after pressure from NHTSA and based on the results of testing, Takatadetermined that a defect may exist in some of its air bag inflators, leading to nationwiderecalls of approximately 22 million inflators and the first Takata Consent Order.• In June 2015, NHTSA commenced a Coordinated Remedy Program Proceeding to considerwhether it should use its accelerated remedy authority in connection with the Takata air baginflator recalls. The Proceeding included public comment, meetings with affected vehiclemanufacturers and suppliers, review of voluminous data and information produced bymanufacturers and suppliers, and a public meeting in October, 2015.
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And the list of the Honda/Acura affected are 01-02 accord, 01-02 civic, 02 crv, 02 odyssey, 03 pilot, 02-03 acura tl 3.2 and 03 acura 3.2cl. So of those 70 million cars only a very small number of that are Honda/Acura. Way more vehicles are effected from other manufactures.
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More from my real HONDA source…
DATE: June 29, 2016
TO: All Honda Dealer Principals, General Managers, Sales Managers, Service Managers, Parts Managers and
Personnel
On Monday, May 23, 2016, American Honda notified NHTSA of a stop sale and safety recall for specific model year 2002-2011 Honda vehicles due to passenger’s airbag inflators that may experience over-pressurization upon deployment due to prolonged exposure to high temperatures and high absolute humidity.
Customer notifications for the following model/model years covered by service bulletin 16-047, Safety Recall: Front Passenger’s Airbag Inflator May Be Over-Pressurized (Phase 1) will begin on June 29, and be completed on July 1:
2005-2006 CR-V
2003-2006 Element
2002-2004 Odyssey
2003-2008 Pilot
2006-2008 Ridgeline
Owners of vehicles in this population will be instructed to contact their dealer to setup an appointment to have their vehicle’s front passenger’s airbag inflator replaced.
nope simply quoting the fact Heat and humidity are causing over pressurization. Which for some reason you still ignore. Buffalo is not an “high absolute humidity” region. which is why the 9 yes only 9 reported deaths have been from the south.
The letter that went out to Toyota owners mentioned only a handful of states, seemed to be ones that border the gulf. Toyota replaced the passenger inflator in 30 minutes and washed the car. Not bad service. My RAV4 is not recalled for the airbag however.
