Since when is a dyno run so destructive? It’s a PERFORMANCE car. It can’t take a stationary redline in a few gears? Having your entire warranty voided on a brand new $70k car for that is so rediculous. How about they try to restore our faith in the car buy saying it’s okay to do dyno runs? Prove they’ve fixed the glass tranny by saying we can take it to a track day? This seems like another step in the wrong direction.
If we do a dyno run on the new Spec V and we later find out they built the $50,000 carbon brakes wrong and we need them fixed… that’s now out of pocket?
yeah, that is true. It is sort of an invasion of privacy to keep gps logs in the car. But if the gps didn’t record movement, and your speedo records high speeds, it is pretty obvious.
that being said, most dynos wont have a GPS, so it would be about the same as going through a long tunnell, so i dunnno if they can pinpoint that if they wanted to
I know you’re a waste of space, so I’ll keep this short.
I’m referring to work. The word I used was work.
If they don’t have any work… there is no need for workers. I’m also referring to the bailout money already paid… not future money. If there is no work coming in there is no reason to have people working. :hang:
If they can avoid doing work where possible, they’ll need to pay for less man-hours (somehow your elegant write-up neglects to consider that less man-hours = less costs for a company, and that GM is concerned with corporate survival, not keeping the payroll as large as possible). They’ll also have to pay for all the parts that they’re replacing (again, a net expenditure that they don’t recoup).
You’re arguing that they’re going to give away as much money to parts suppliers and employees as possible because they already got it from the federal government, and have it on hand? This makes no business sense.
(1) Spend more money than you need to on employees, with $0 payment from customer.
(2) Spend more money than you need to on parts, with $0 payment from customer.
(3) ???
(4) Profit.
Also…
Nice strawman. If you can make a sensible argument, I’d be happy to listen. So far your argument has consisted of “They’ll make more work for themselves by doing this, so it’s a good thing.”
Pure junk in my mind.If you build something for performance the parts better hold up.If the parts dont they didnt do a very good building it in the first place.And then they try to back out of the warranty because they know it would cost them a ton if they stood behind the POS they built.
You guys do realize that the VDC has 3 different modes right? One of them is a racing mode. I am not sure whether racing mode = vdc off, however, the wording does not imply that. There are 3 different modes for VDC, Normal; Comfort, for maximum suspension compliance; or “R,” for ultimate handling.
Main point is, this is not some power robbing traction control system. This is a system to assist bad drivers in going really fast around a track.
The GT-R will continue to offer supercar characteristics of exceptional handling, maneuvering, and overall driving experience. You are reminded to drive safely and obey all traffic laws. The GT-R Owner’s Manual expressly warns against driving with the VDC OFF (except to free the vehicle when stuck in mud or snow) to avoid damage. Repairs for damage caused by driving with VDC OFF are expressly excluded under the terms of the Nissan GT-R New Car Limited Warranty. To avoid risk for such repairs, you are reminded to drive with VDC ON at all times. Except when stuck, there is no reason to be driving with VDC OFF.
I guess I never considered the possibility of being stuck in mud or snow in this car. Perhaps owners should look into better snow/mud tires so they don’t void their warranty.