Wow… At least that guy threw them under the bus. “Please don’t mention it” “Ok, I won’t talk about confiscating weapons”
The best part of this entire bill is gun owners who said “Well this will just ban those evil assault rifles”
Tons of stories of people who had no idea it would cause issues for handguns/ammo purchases/recerting pistol permits/etc and now they’re upset
Well how did that happen? It was supposed to be a choice between give up your machine guns or 5 year olds die.
I did not see the Springfield M1a being on the http://troopers.ny.gov/Firearms/NYS_SAFE_Act/ list. I understand it is capable of 8rnds. Was looking at picking one up soon.
Edit: assuming Springfield comes out with a 7rnd mag… fucking joke
That is not an all encompassing list. A typical M1A comes with a flash suppressor = scary gun, so unless you remove that and have pre-ban 10rd mags you still can’t buy a new one.
These are official numbers of homicides for the country, anyone notice anything?
Crime is going down.
Most of the crimes are with pistols.
But everyone is fixated on even assault rifles. /sigh
Found some numbers for NY last year.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20
New York
Total Homicides 774
Firearm related 445
Handguns 394
Rifles 5
Shotgun 16
Unknown type 30
Personal Weapons: 26
Five times as many people died from being beaten to death by fists then being shot with a rifle. Clearly we have our priorities straight here.
I love that there are more bare hands related homicides than there are with rifles. I think it’s time for a bill mandating we chop off people’s hands, you know, for the children.
Thats what I was thinking, plus with no hands we can’t use handguns anymore. Win win situation if there ever was one.
if anyone is concerned about losing thirty round mags for there AR just say they are .458 socom mags. 30 round .223 mags hold exactly 10 rounds of .458, quid pro quo they are 10 round mags 
lmao yes
Who has a machine shop now I just need to make a gun that stores 6 in the frame and 7 in the mag lol
On another note you can chamber 1 round and top off the mag so 7+1 :lol:
Yeah, but just don’t take the shortcut of putting 8 in the mag and then chamber 1, because for those few seconds before you chamber the round you’re a FUCKING CRIMINAL MASTERMIND! Once you cycle that round in though you’re back to respectable citizen.
2.5% of murders with rifles
:tup: effective legislation
Now lets see of the murders with any gun…how many have “high-capacity” mags?
In political la-la land theory…there shouldn’t be any in NYS right…because they’re illegal.
I might know a guy.
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I can’t tell you how many I’ve debated gun control with that kept saying if I didn’t agree AR’s need to be banned I’m approving the mass murder of children.
Weird how people rationalize things
62 kids under the age of 18 got killed in Chicago last year with 0 national attention or demand for action.
20 get shot in suburbs and we take immediate action which will do nothing to stop crazy people
The fucked up thing is the 62 deaths in Chicago could actually be controlled/prevents this isn’t dealing with crazy people but poverty, drugs, gangs, and issues that can be fixed.
For example - http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/02/no-murders-in-aurora-in-2012/
0 murders in 2012
In 1996 Aurora had 357 shootings and 26 murders
sorry to go all federal, but I haven’t seen this throw in yet. You guys like or hate?
OBAMA’S 23 EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ON GUNS
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Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
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Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
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Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
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Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
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Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
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Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
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Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign. THE NRA HAS RUN THIS FOR MANY YEARS!
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Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
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Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
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Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
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Nominate an ATF director.
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Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
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Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
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Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
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Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
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Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
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Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
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Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
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Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
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Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
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Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
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Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
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Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
Outside of parading kids around stage none of that is bad.
For the most part the EO’s posted are good or should have already been happening. Like information being shared between agencies for background checks.
The horror will start when Congress starts to make laws that stem from them and they are completely twisted beyond belief.
agreed, I wouldn’t have done that.
however, here is Bush doing some anti-stem cell stuff using kids.