So, im sure many of you know of “Occupy Wallstreet”
Basicly what was a couple hippies turned into thousands of people.
Now I have not been following this, and really don’t know what it started out as, but all these videos im seeing, aside from the fact that they are trying to capitalize on cops fucking peoples shit up.
All I get out of this is that a lot of these people that are portesting seem like they are simply using this as a crutch to blame everyone else for there inability to get a job, and are basicly touting free this and that for everyone and ending capitalism etc…
pardon my ignornace with it all, but would love to just hear some of the more in the know members look on this and maybe an explination because to be honest, watching the videos, I feel like no one really knows wtf they are down there shouting for
don’t know much about it. Seem to represent intrests so diverse its hard to really put a face on it.
i for one find any citizen organized political movements, even the tea partiers, to be a very health thing and we need more of it, even if a lot of it might be misguided. Better for people concerned and envolved and maybe a little wrong then to have them paying no attention at all.
It doesn’t matter what they are protesting, especially what they are doing are far more peaceful and much less crazy than what some Tea-Party people did. Did you see any people in a Tea-Party protest got randomly attacked and pepper spary by the police?
They got attacked bascially because they are recording video and you know how law enforcement hate being taped.
Funny how we lecture other countries about how their government should not attack their protesting citizens and then the world saw videos like NY police attacking peaceful protesters here. :rofl
nobody really knows more then there is an occupy wallstreet happening because the media doesn’t cover it, until people start getting arrested. from what the girl said in my class that was down there last weekend the arrests are pretty unfounded, a bunch of people got arrested because they were up against the fence blocking them from spreading out.
I find it ironic that they protest a system that not only allows them to protest but encourages it as well. They think the grass is greener on the socialist side but it’s not and when they try to go back they’ll find a boot on their neck.
The poor/unemployed complain the most and get the most gov. assistance, the rich that do want to help want to help the poor, while the class that makes up the majority of the population, the middleclass, gets gangraped. When they have no jobs they want all the assistance they can get yet as soon as they get jobs and have to start paying taxes out of their ass’s their tone will change real quick.
I’m sorry, I’m so sick of hearing this type of rhetoric. If you’re against corporations running our entire country, creating our laws, and running our lives, then you’re socialist? That’s bullshit.
It’s not that simplistic. I think the protests aren’t really well organized, and lack a vision of what they want to achieve. Which is inevitably what happens to every protest of this type.
This protest was started by Adbuster’s magazine. Which is a loosely knit group of people who don’t like the current paradigm in which we live. I think you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone who is currently happy with the way our country or personal lives are at the moment.
Corporations do not run our lives, create our laws or run our country but the do have a great influence and presence in our society because that’s what capitalism is all about. They’re the job creators and innovators that allow us and our families to lead good lives. I agree that they do need to be put on a shorter leash in some aspects but the system does not need to be taken apart as these protestors would like. They have no need to protest anyway since the current administration is doing whatever it can to move us into the socialist “utopia” they all want. These protestors, regardless of their organizational skills, want a society where there’s no rich or no poor and where everyone is on an equal plain. That is socialism anyway you slice it and we have history to prove what happens under that kind of system.
That has to be the most fundamentally wrong statement in the entire thread. This is American and citizens have the right to protest what ever they want whenever they want also long as it isn’t violent(yes there are a couple more restrictions but w.e.). Also corporations don’t create domestic jobs they typically offshore them. Majority of job creation is small business then government. Don’t believe me look a Schenectady after Jack Welch(CEO G.E.) decided cheap labor is the way to go and sent all the manufacturing jobs to China. Either which way these individuals aren’t happy with the way the country is being run so they are protesting. If they are setting fire to stuff in the streets and throwing rocks at the cops there is no reason for them to be arrested. If your really that nieve to think that important policy decissions aren’t steering in some way shape or form by the richest 1% of the nation then your nuts.
BTW I agree w/ KBB solution is buy more guns and ammo
Capitalism is not about making policy. Or at least it didn’t used to be. The whole point of capitalism, is to have privately run, for profit business. Well, that’s what I thought?
What is this “job creator” thing? If you want to make more money, you need to have people making money for you. One person needs more hands and minds to make money for them. That’s not “creating jobs” that’s making more money. No problem with that, but lets call it like it is. It’s not like rich people or “innovators” are out there saying "Hey, lets bless a person with $65,000 this year and a mediocre 401k plan. They think to themselves “Can $65k invested in this person, make me $200k” Nobody is out there just making work for works sake. Nobody invests trying to break even.
The current administration is NOT moving us in the direction that these protesters would like. Otherwise they wouldn’t be protesting. Most extreme left people have a real distaste for Obama. He kept taxes low for the ultra-rich in the last go-round. He is STILL in Iraq and Afghanistan, he did nothing with Guantanamo, they’ve had enough of him.
Most people are smart enough to not advocate for the total end of capitalism. I think people are mostly fed up with the ways that preferential treatment is given to corporations over individuals because they wield the money. In the end these protests will be looked at as groups of young people, upset with current conditions, with no defined goal.
What do they really want? To be recognized in society. This is what has been going on since the dawn of time.
I wasn’t saying they shouldn’t have the right to protest, in fact the right to organize and peacefully protest is one of the greatest things about this country. What I was saying is that the protestors have plenty of backing in the White House.
The fact that American companies out source for cheap labor and be traced back to the greedy labor unions in this country. They are what almost brought down the auto-industry in this country.
I agree. There is always going to rich and poor in this country and there will always be rich making money off of the poor in this country no matter what administration is in power. Young people of every generation have always protested either due to going to college an be awakened for the first time or unhappy with their status in society.
The problem with the government structure is it’s dominated by lawyers. Where are the scientists, engineers, researchers, etc?
The reason companies outsource for cheaper labor, is way more simple than labor unions. It’s just that they wanted more profits. That’s their job. That’s what they’re going to do. Union or not, you’re never going to get a worker in the US to work for 14 hours a day, for less than a few dollars a day. Corporations are not “job creators” therefore, they will ALWAYS go looking for the cheapest labor possible. Even if it means exploitation. As a matter of fact, they are starting to have “problems” in China already. People wanting crazy things like “quality of life”,
The only thing that brought down US auto makers is poor design and lack of quality and poor management.