That makes a lot of sense. I wish the news would spin it differently. I didn’t even think of the damage to neighboring property values until you pointed it out, and I like to think I’m at least moderately smart. (Arguable, I know.) Maybe if the media focused more on how the neglect is hurting the neighborhood then people would protest/sue/draw attention to this stuff before it’s too far gone. :shrug:
haha your worried about the property value in the west side???, sorry man that ship sailed 20 years ago when all the degenerates, drug dealers, and welfare moms with 18 kids moved in.
It used to be a great place to live but sadly now its just too far gone.
And yes i lived there with my grandparents and most of my relatives lived there growing up, you folks probably weren’t even around when it was all Italians.
Im just saying if you want to clean up a neighborhood, get rid of the GARBAGE that keeps moving in.
Thumbs up for the most ignorant post of the week. Comments and posts by uninformed, ignorant people like you are a large part of the issue with Buffalo.
I know ColdAccord has made some posts, and they likely mirror what I am about to write, but I didn’t have time to read through the thread.
Everyone who lives in the city of buffalo has a stake in this demolition. It is the residents of buffalo who have to pay for the emergency demolition of structures that are let get to this condition. And why do they get in this condition?
It is a 50/50 blame in my book, of the owners greed and negligence, along with the city failing to hold property owners responsible for this type of demolition by neglect. We have a failed system where someone can buy a property like this, put it up for sale for an outrageous price, and just sit on it until it falls apart, causing a whole neighborhood to be negatively affected, and get a free demolition, care of the city of buffalo. The owner forgoes the costs to do this themselves and ends up with a “shovel ready” piece of real estate.
One additional fact you missed is that the neighbors surrounding the property make up the core group of people protesting the demolition.
These people live in one of the oldest and most historic corners of the city, completely hidden under the shadow of this enormous structure, which has led to it’s preservation and quiet, unique character. Quite simply, this neighborhood would not exist as it does today without the livery.
How does it not outrage you that someone like these owners can get away with something like this, yet there are people preserving and investing in the neighborhoods around this area that get cited for a single board being out of place? The neighborhood has been complaining to city hall for YEARS about this building, this is not simply a reactive measure.
There have been many buyers over the past few years willing to pay a fair price for this building, and the owner’s greed (or alternative motivations) have kept this building out of the hands of someone who could have restored it.
This is about something much bigger than one building. This is something that will hopefully lead to patching the hole in our city government that allows property owners to neglect properties at our collective expense.
And about those old grain elevators… I am glad that you mentioned them, as a whole new (or old?) industry has been born out of a couple of the abandoned grain elevators, an industry that will likely bring a good amount of money and jobs into WNY, and will expand to at least 3-4 other elevators. Good thing we didn’t take them all down.
Again, #2 most ignorant post of the week.
Yes, the west side has issues, but you cannot ignore the amount of progress that’s been made. The past 10 years has turned richmond into a fantastic place to live, and that is moving further into the west side, street by street. Please, take a walk around this livery and check out little summer street for yourself. Every house on this street is on the Garden Tour, and is one of the nicest streets in buffalo.
:lol: You never disapoint. :tup:
I did it just for you buddy!
:lolham::lolham::lolham::lolham::lolham::lolham::lolham:
OH BOY! ETHANOL! Just what the Buffalo waterfront needs, more industry. Even better, an industry that is causing more harm than good.
This is going to look great in the middle of the business/greenspace/housing that Buffalo is trying to put on the waterfront:
But srsly, how much longer before that plant is anywhere near expectations?
Just out of curiosity, how many people here actually live in the city? My assumption is that a lot of this misinformation is coming from “outsiders” looking in.
My biggest peeve with the preservationists is you dont hear from them until a building is so far gone that demolition seems to be the best/only option. I am all about preserving the historical integrity of the city, but why dont we put the heat on some of these property owners before the buildings collapse onto themselves.
Again, #2 most ignorant post of the week.
Yes, the west side has issues, but you cannot ignore the amount of progress that’s been made. The past 10 years has turned richmond into a fantastic place to live, and that is moving further into the west side, street by street. Please, take a walk around this livery and check out little summer street for yourself. Every house on this street is on the Garden Tour, and is one of the nicest streets in buffalo.
lol yeah ok, u werent even born when the west side was a nice place to live.
You really have no idea do you, of how nice it used to be, why because your young, and basing your experience on how it is now… Take a walk down niagara street, right where Balistreri’s used to be, tell me how that is a nice area, it used to be beautiful, now its a dump.
I just can’t understand how people in Buffalo think.
So they’re sitting around saying:
“We’re going to have this casino”
“And this beautiful waterfront”
You know what would go great with this stuff, an industrial complex complete with a bunch of tanker rail cars!
:picard:
The only saving grace is that the way ethanol is heading in the media and political circles both of the companies involved may go bust in time for this to be reclaimed for something worth while.
Like the billion dollar fishermans wharf (or w/e they’re calling it now).
:lol: Once the plants get built and go online and are ready to produce their first shipment the nature humpers will have the whole operation shut down because the ship traffic will disrupt the natural habitat of a zebra mussel.
My only question is, what kind of company would want to buy a crappy building on the west side of Buffalo and turn it into something? Cost to much to use for any good at this moment, the area sucks. No I have never lived there, but have driven through it, and yes there are nice houses but crime there sucks. Buffalo needs a major overhaul before it can really turn around.
People need to quit living in the past, and the idiots need to be kicked out of office and smart people voted in. I say when 90% of the idiots die, that’s when change might happen. Till then, my ass won’t be back living around Buffalo.
I do know how the west side used to be, granted I was not alive - but I do know.
My point is that it is finally getting better (rather than continuing to get worse), and there are a ton of people working hard to see it happen, street by street. It’s not going to happen quickly, but it is happening. Look at streets like baynes… I know several people who have bought houses on that street that would have never thought about living there 5 years ago.
Jersey/Richmond/Little Summer is actually a very high demand area. Kleinhans neighborhood has seen a TON of investment in the last couple years, and little summer is gorgeous.