Official NYSpeed bomb the livery meet thread.

I agree that an ethanol plant on the waterfront may not be the best idea, I am curious as to why you think ethanol is doing more harm than good?

I have been working with one of the process engineers designing the buffalo plant and if the design he is proposing goes through it would be one of the most efficient ethanol plants in the country.

very true. 2 people I know bought houses over that way and completely remodeled them. They’re beautiful now.

still need to remove the trash though… just a few streets away there’s graffiti all over and bullet holes in the stop signs/house siding

ok a bit of a turnaround, how about california st. Used to be so nice, now look at it, it drove both of my cousins out after they had lived there for 40 years.

so while some of the places might be getting better, alot are still not.

Sorry, I did forget there are nice area’s around there. I’m speaking more towards Grant, forest etc. A few blocks over. I love Buffalo, but until something drastic happens, I could not and will not sit around waiting for jobs and a better economy. I might be back one day, we will see.

Cliff notes, because for the first time in the history of man we’re taking a food crop that the world needs and burning it for fuel. Logicially it ranks right up there will selling your car to buy gas and cutting off your nose to spite your face.

A more detailed explaination:

Washington Post:

And as much as I despise Kennedy:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200805/POL20080501a.html
And what a shock the senator from IDAHO, a major CORN STATE that pretty much was given a license to print money with the ethanol subsidies, doesn’t see a problem.

I am less excited about ethanol, and more excited about the opportunity for Buffalo to again become a grain storage and transportation hub, which is a huge part of this project, given the number of vacant elevators and growing storage needs.

The industrial complexes are already there… This is not something new to the area, and it is not on the waterfront. The old first ward is virtually all industrial brownfields as it is, so I will take a functioning, job generating business over what is there now - regardless if I agree with product they product. The grain industry is what built this city to begin with, so we should welcome it back with open arms.

You are right, ethanol produced from corn alone would be a bad idea, and that is how most of our ethanol is produced currently. Cellulosic ethanol is the direction we are heading which will greatly ease the fuel vs food issue. The ethanol industry in the US is in its infancy, so there will be some growing pains associated with its growth to get to xx billions of gallons by 2020 as mandated by the govt.

You also have to consider what is worse? increased food prices, or continued dependency on foreign oil? IMO, we are making strides in the right direction.

I post my reply sitting in the $250,000 house I live in, 2 blocks away from the livery.

richmond is a great street, as is jersey.

I actually almost bought a house on pennsylvania, but it sold before I could get to it. for $200,000

there are some incredible parts of the west side right now, and it’s only growing. every few years 1 more block west becomes nicer.

west side til I die

I live westside/allentown and love it… I park a 30k car out front with no problems…

ZEBRA MUSSEL!
can’t stop laughing.

Don’t forget that while excavating the site, they’ll discover an old outhouse that Frank Lloyd Wright took a dump in, and shut the whole thing down for 10 years while its being built.

i really like living in buffalo. I prefer parkside to richmond, but richmond isn’t bad (although that is where my truck’s window was smashed…)

At any rate, as fuel costs increase all around, expect to see an exodus BACK to the city.

heh, I think I know where you must live. You ever come out to see your car covered in toilet paper? I was wondering who that belonged to/who did that

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/382654.html

please no HUD homes, please no HUD homes, please no HUD homes.

I hope that works out.